No we wouldn’t because the solution to the paradox of tolerance is that you can’t be tolerant of intolerance. It’s a social contract, if one party breaks it, the contract is broken.
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Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 year ago
If real bigots were as eloquent with their words as Dukat, we might have a problem. Thankfully, none of them seemed to have that kind of charisma since Hitler killed himself.
dojan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Steve@communick.news 1 year ago
It’s not a contract, because the parties involved didn’t all get a chance to agree to it before hand.
If you want to use a contract as an analogy, you might say your offering someone the options of signing a new contract, or being being ostracized.
The best way to eliminate bigotry, is with unearned compassion. It’s certainly more difficult. But it is the highest moral ideal.
CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Eh…
This might work at a micro, local scale. But it does not work nationally or even regionally.
One side is rabidly homicidal, public stating they’ll kill people who are different from them.
You simply can’t love these people to death. Because they will continue to kill while you reason with them.
Steve@communick.news 1 year ago
You simply can’t love these people to death. Because they will continue to kill while you reason with them.
First. We’re talking about bigots, not murders. Those are two separate groups. It’s prejudicial to assume all bigots are murders.
Second. You can’t “reason” with them, because their position isn’t based on reason, but emotion. You simply be kind to them. Be their friend. Show them that X aren’t all the bad things they imagine.
dojan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Absolutely. Go tell all those gay and trans people that they should’ve showed their murderers more compassion.
I’m not saying that what you suggest is impossible, but it’s idealistic and naïve.
Steve@communick.news 1 year ago
Being a murder is different than being a bigot.
I would bet the vast majority of bigots, have never killed anyone.
militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Appeasement. That always works.
Steve@communick.news 1 year ago
I’m not talking about appeasement.
You don’t have to agree with someone or do what they want, to not shun them. Have you never disagreed with a friend? Did you read the article I linked to?
pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 year ago
I am going to pray nobody takes this idiot seriously
Steve@communick.news 1 year ago
It would be more effective to explain how I’m wrong. But if you can’t right now, I understand. My comments will still be here tomorrow.
Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 1 year ago
It’s not a contract, because the parties involved didn’t all get a chance to agree to it before hand.
Everyone gets automatic entry and can leave any time they want. If they decide they don’t agree to it there’s nothing keeping them from shrugging off the good graces of society. I think that’s pretty fair.
Droechai@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I was in a very bad spot once and one part of it was due to the so called social contract and the demands it put on me as an individual but when I tried to exit the contract I got forced in ward psychiatric care which kind of negates your argument of there being a choice.
Now a days I still have some issues with the social contract but have other things to live for and have managed to come to terms on how to live with it.
Aiastarei@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Acshually the social contract isn’t a thing because I didn’t get to review and sign it
Bruh
AngrilyEatingMuffins@kbin.social 1 year ago
Omfg I knew it would be that guy. He’s the guy your type always reps. Maybe read what black anti racist orgs have to say about him. It’s not nearly as nice as what the KKK says.
militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It’s a shame Dukat never got the recognition he deserved for the kindness he showed the Bajorans. Not even 1 statue, for shame.
Zorque@kbin.social 1 year ago
There's plenty, they're just not as big on world-conquering as Hitler (or Dukat). Just look at any megachurch.
Feirdro@lemmy.world 1 year ago
With the rising tide of hate crimes and white supremacist attacks on democratically elected reps, it’s obvious they don’t need to be eloquent.
Just criminal.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
A smart racist is an oxymoron.
GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Dismissing them like this isn’t very smart either. There are plenty of smart racists, those who understand how to instrumentalize it to rally the angry mob around their own goals by sprinkling some xenophobia on top. Those who successfully push ultra capitalist legislation against the direct interests of their constituents, just because it hurts the brown people too.
Kjatten@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Was Hitler supposed to be charismatic?
Fogle@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
If you consider charisma as knowing what to say and when to say it to get people to agree with you then yeah kinda
dmonzel@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Eloquence isn’t the only measure of charisma. See: Trump.
RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Destroy the Cardassian education system, and the populace will believe anything, even the eloquent words of a Vorta like Weekend at Keevan’s, controlled by Rom.