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Comment on Fallout: London hasn't developed into a Fallout 4-esque hub of new quest and expansion mods so far, and its lead has theories why

pimento64@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

The article never addresses the elephant in the room, which is that Fallout 4 doesn’t have the cultural staying power that 3 and New Vegas did, because it just isn’t a very good game, so there is never going to be as robust of a modding scene.

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Sanctus@anarchist.nexus ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
The only thing 4 got right was power armor. Thats it.

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BlackVenom@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Is being the last game Bethesda made not staying power?

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- Zahille7@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  There have also been surges of players because of the show
  
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jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Yeah Fallout4 was kind of bad. I played it a lot anyway (sim settlements 2 is pretty good) but the core of it is rotten.

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shani66@ani.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I can’t let this misinformation slide; fallout 3 is the worst game in the franchise bar none.

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- pimento64@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  That would be Brotherhood of Steel and it’s not even close
  
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Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
A quick look at steamcharts alone with dismiss your claim.

steamcharts.com/app/377160 21k active users now, 33k 24hr peak

steamcharts.com/app/489830 22k active users now, 32k 24hr peak

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- AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  I don’t think that’s really the best metric. Call of Duty from 2022 has 30k current players and 39k peak 24 hours. steamcharts.com/app/1938090
  
  I think a whole lot of people would agree that CoD games are not great and are generally mass produced, mass appeal crap. But they sure do rack up the sales and players. Just having a large player base does not necessarily mean a game is genuinely good with cultural staying power.
  
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  - Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    2022 CoD vs 2015 FO4, 70k mods on Nexusmods
    
    I’m not saying the base game is amazing, but it clearly has staying power and a healthy mod community built up around it.
    
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    AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Sure, and I didn’t mean that FO4 is terrible or has no staying power. I haven’t played it, so I can’t judge. I just meant that player count isn’t necessarily a good metric for whether it will develop a thriving modding community.
    
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