Comment on Tankie

sommerset@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• SethTaylor@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  This dude thinks Ukraine “was asking for it”

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  • sommerset@thelemmy.club ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yes they 100 percent deserve what is happening.

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    • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Whatever your beliefs are, we should all agree that nobody deserves to suffer. Even people who have done terrible things, I wish for them to be swiftly and mercifully removed from power or brought to justice with minimal suffering.

      Most people in Ukraine are just powerless nobodies going about their lives. They don’t deserve to be subjected to a war. They have no real choice in how that war is waged, or if it is at all.

      If anyone deserves comeuppance, it’s the ruling class who actually choose to let these events play out.

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    • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Who? This isn’t happening to the fascists in control of Ukraine, most of the randos who got conscripted by force and are now getting got by drones and missiles while trying to hide in a swamp are just normal ass people who didn’t ask for this.

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• Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Those in control of the USA are internationalists, too.

  They don’t care who “wins”, they profit off of the war itself.

  They love tankies

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  • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    They don’t care who “wins”, they profit off of the war itself (and the rebuild for that matter).

    Then why would they love tankies, some of the only people who consistently oppose them building and using tanks?

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    • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Tankies are “authoritarian communists”, they are not pro peace in any way, they love tanks.

      (standard definition, not familiar with the tankies that you describe)

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      • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Bedtimes are authoritarian, your parents are dictators

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      • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Really? Because I’m always calling for staying out of conflicts and dramatically reducing the military budget and people are constantly calling me a tankie because of those stances.

        See, if you don’t want war, it means you support the other side, and however bad “our” side is, the other side is always worse and more aggressive (the media says so, after all) and that means that anyone who’s pro-peace is actually pro-war.

        So it was when I said we shouldn’t invade Iraq and Afghanistan, it meant that I was “a terrorist sympathizer” and “pro-Al Qaida,” and when I say we should stay out of Palestine, people say I’m “pro-Hamas” and when I say we should stay out of Ukraine people say I’m “pro-Russia” and a “tankie.” Consistently advocating against the use of tanks is essentially the defining characteristic of a “tankie.”

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    • bbboi@feddit.uk ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      War makes money

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      • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        But tankies oppose nearly all wars.

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    • humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      can’t have war if everyone surrenders too soon.

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      • Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Exactly.

        There’s only one war worth fighting and that’s the class war. Everything else is just throwing lives away for nothing.

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  • Aljernon@lemmy.today ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They don’t care who “wins”, they profit off of the war itself

    People kept telling me that the Taliban won the war in Afghanistan but I kept telling them the US Military Industrial complex won.

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• Aljernon@lemmy.today ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Tankies traditionally supported the USSR above all other Warsaw pact countries.

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• bbboi@feddit.uk ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  not one country above all ists.

  except China*

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• explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  anti-whataboutism

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