Comment on I felt so betrayed when I found out Germany isn't called Germany in Germany

El_Scapacabra@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It’s not really a mix-up. More a continuation of an old name for the language spoken in the Netherlands. The Dutch centuries ago called their language Diets/Duuts/Duits which means something like Germanic. This was before the countries Germany and the Netherlands existed.

  Diets is not a single language but a name for all the different regional languages spoken in the low lands also known as Middle Dutch. The name was used to differentiate the languages from the Romance languages.

  Hence why the English called the people of the low lands Dutch since the people of the low lands said they were speakers of Diets/Duuts/Duits.

  Also in the Dutch national anthem there is a line that says “Ben ik van Duitsen bloed” “I am of Dutch/Deutsche blood” which does not refer to modern day Deutschland but to what all Germanic people in the low lands, what is now present day Netherlands, would call themselves.

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  • zaphod@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The Dutch centuries ago called their language Diets/Duuts/Duits which means something like Germanic.

    No, it means something like “people” or “of the people”.

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    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Wait, so Dutch is the language of people and everyone else has been using animal languages this whole time!?

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      • ChairmanMeow@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Ja

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• Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  What do people from the Netherlands call themselves if not Dutch or the Dutch?

  Like, people from the United States call themselves Americans, there’s the Spanish and French.

  Are they called Netherlanders or something?

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  • SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Well in Dutch they call themselves Nederlanders or Hollanders. Though Hollanders is only correct if they are from the provinces North-Holland or South-Holland

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Holland is fairytale beautiful. Would happily live there. I loved visiting.

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• Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Most Dutch people I met just call it Holland. We do so in Denmark as well

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  • starlinguk@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    “We” call it Holland because foreigners say “eh?” when we call it the Netherlands.

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    • Paper_Phrog@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Its the worst. Always try a “Netherlands” and get a “what??” in return and then say “Holland” - “ooooooh HOLLAND!”…

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    • Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Hah, didn’t know that

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      • bestelbus22@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yeah wierd situation. Internally it only refers to the 2 provinces in the west but externally we all chant it during football matches

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• rumba@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  This is what confused me so much about germany’s real name :)

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