Comment on US Trade Dominance Will Soon Begin to Crack

HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• teft@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  America has been on the decline for 20 years at least. The Dipshit in charge has accelerated the decline via tariffs but we’d just be moving slower towards the drain with kamala in charge. She wasn’t exactly campaigning on large changes to the economy.

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  • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Since 1981 the large decline began. Like 80% of bad policies and shitting on the working class in america can be traced back to the 80s… I wonder what happened then.

    Kamala would just have been a party line corporate puppet like Obama 2.0. But undoubtedly 100x better than trump.

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    • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Like 80% of bad policies and shitting on the working class in america can be traced back to the 80s… I wonder what happened then.

      Rotten Ronnie Regan.

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    • WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Drugs and crime.

      Giuliani didnt clean up nyc… He called a favor and made it quiet then got used for this current American coup until he wasn’t needed and got kicked to the curb. Trump is probably in the same position. He’s tool, not a mastermind… His life right now is his the payment of a debt and when he is done being used he will be kicked to curb as well.

      The more I learned about mafia life and authentic career and organized crime the more America makes sense.

      Epstein didn’t get fucked over because of what he was doing, he was fucked over for what he knows and the loose ends started to unravel.

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• HailSeitan@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Kamala would have defended DMCA and Big Tech to the death. The only difference might have been a little less crypto grifting, but it’s nonsense to suggest there would have been a major difference on the issues this article is actually discussing.

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  • yakko@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The trends and forces would have been no different, but it was a choice between a collapse of empire versus a soft landing a la UK. They chose collapse.

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    • hark@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I would not describe the state of the UK as a “soft landing”.

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      • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Near best minimum wage on earth, free healthcare and a moat to keep the French out? Could be worse.

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      • yakko@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Not my tempo. I was talking about the loss of a global empire. Many have called the UK’s a “soft landing”, but even the hardest collapses so far will have been a different level of scale from what America is cooking up for itself.

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      • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The state of the UK is fine?

        Free healthcare, relatively low food prices, growing wages, one of the highest minimum wages on Earth, low income taxes, decent workers rights, low levels of violent crime.

        There’s some not great things, like house prices, but as I understand it, that’s an issue in most of the developed world.

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• FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  What, exactly, wouldn’t be happening if Harris had won?

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  • Nalivai@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    For example, neither batshit tarrifs, nor insane dissolution of trust, if we’re talking purely about international economics.

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    • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      neither batshit tarrifs,

      That’s true. Harris, though, like Trump, wouldn’t be doing anything to regulate LLM’s or their financial fuckery, and that is going to be catastrophic when the game of financial musical chairs stops.

      insane dissolution of trust

      Also a good point. The American brand would be more or less intact, at least in the short-term, but I tend to think that all Harris would do is just maintain better PR, because her policies economically wouldn’t be different enough from Donald’s to keep the AI bubble from eventually popping.

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      • Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Not everybody is an AI single issue voter

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    • plyth@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Only that chances are that it’s the other way round. Trump was installed to sell the tariffs to the world.

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      • Nalivai@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This conspiratorial thinking is harmful and dangerous, be better

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  • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s a bit of a disingenuous question, no?

    What the hell do you think would not have happened?

    • Doge?

    • The unlawful deportations to random

    • Ice?

    • countries with torture prisons?

    • War crimes in the Carribean?

    • The multiple trade wars?

    • The absolute dumping of all US allies off a cliff?

    • Bombing Nigeria because reasons?

    • The entire Epstein thing and the US president being a pedophile for the entire world to see?

    And mind you, this is not a comprehensive list, I just gotta stop at some point or nobody will read it anymore.

    Take a pick?

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  • nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The whole trade war thing i guess

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  • FosterMolasses@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Have the day you voted for.

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    • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I voted Green.

      We don’t ever get to have a positive political outcome because of the people you vote for.

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      • chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Green? As in Green Party? The environmentalist Republicans? That Green Party?

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• mrdown@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We don’t want to be dependent of your shitty country

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