A very vocal portion of the user base, but we don’t actually know what absolute portion cares. I’m personally unlikely to use possible AI features outside translation, but Mozilla has generally done enough that I don’t feel particularly worried they’re going to mess with my privacy or force me to use a feature I don’t want.
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Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 3 weeks ago
Is there nobody with sanity left? This has blown up so much the user base clearly does not want it. Focus your efforts elsewhere. You gain marketshare by putting users first. Also fuck markets.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 3 weeks ago
They could do a survey amongst Firefox users about what they want.
But if the result is anti-AI they can’t claim anymore that they weren’t aware of their users opinions.
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 3 weeks ago
The issue is that there aren’t many of us Firefox users left, so asking us while FF wants to get NEW users to expand the market share (which is badly needed, so they do not lose their seat at the table regarding web standards, and to make them less dependent on googles payments) is not helpful at all.
As long as i can switch it off with one click, i couldn’t care less and will continue using FF, but as you can see many existing users will bitch and moan even if it’s just one click.
Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 3 weeks ago
so asking us while FF wants to get NEW users
This is a balancing act and Mozilla behaves like an elefant in a porcelain shop right now. Worst case they loose their current users without attracting new ones.
existing users will bitch and moan even if it’s just one click
I’m one of them. Why not make it one click for people who want it instead?
Emi@ani.social 3 weeks ago
We need valve but for browsers.
tonytins@pawb.social 3 weeks ago
Funny. That’s exactly what Mozilla used to be.
hummingbird@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Yup, RIP
SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
sidelove@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Ladybird I follow since it’s an entirely new browser engine and can help restore a little democracy to the web, but why Floorp? I’m looking through its website and it seems to be a more customizable Firefox, which is nice, but doesn’t seem particularly revolutionary (and forks of Chromium/Firefox are kinda a dime a dozen).
natecox@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Floorp misses the mark for me. Waterfox and librewolf seem to be a better fit for most people.
Always celebrate more options, though. I hope ladybird does well and doesn’t shit the bed the moment it gets some market share.
These days I’m tempted to just write myself a super minimal front end to Servo though because I don’t want 90% of what modern browsers ship with.
SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No idea why Floorp has garnered attention but other seem interested.
ChaosMonkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
It seems to me that the issue is how we consume the web versus games: We’re used to pay to play but not to browse the internet. Valve is able to make money without relying on affiliations or donations.
Xylight@lemdro.id 2 weeks ago
Getting stuck on Lemmy can get us into an echo chamber. A lot of the mass public actively uses AI and may even appreciate these features.
XLE@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
[citation needed]
This sounds like an opinion from the LinkedIn echo chamber.
Xylight@lemdro.id 2 weeks ago
According to top results for a few searches,
ChatGPT has 700 million weekly active users, as of September 2025.
Gemini has 350 million monthly active users, as of April 2025.
ChatGPT is the number 1 app on the Google Play top downloaded apps currently.
Some numbers may be slightly inflated for a number of reasons, but another source is speaking to people IRL. I often overhear conversations mentioning ChatGPT or AI in general.
“AI bros” are definitely cancerous but a lot of average consumers do in fact use AI frequently
troed@fedia.io 3 weeks ago
If all Firefox users donated to Mozilla it could work. Alas, we don't.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
I probably would, if the organizational structure and its spending focus(es) weren’t so fucked up. They have been spending insane amounts of money on bullshit like AI instead of core browser features, and their leadership has extremely high wages for something that should be a non-profit open source organization. And it has been like this for years at this point.
ricecake@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Their CEO makes more than I think CEOs should earn in general, but the rest of their executives earn relatively normal to low salaries for their roles and the sector.
Non-profit doesn’t mean everyone works for free.
db2@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Well to be fair they only had that or onlyfans to get paid to sit there playing with themselves.
dublet@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They’d have done less damage going for the OF option.
6nk06@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
You can donate to Mozilla, you cannot donate to Firefox.
Serinus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Which is probably a good thing. I appreciate projects like Thunderbird as well.
kilgore_trout@feddit.it 3 weeks ago
No money you donate to Mozilla Foundation goes to either Firefox (MozCorp) or Thunderbird (MZLA).
They are separate entities.
douglasg14b@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Pretty much this.
They are making market based decisions because they have to, and all the users bitching and moaning about them making financially driven decisions don’t donate anyways.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Then let’s
How? Where? I’ll donate, take my money, and ads a voting system where paying users can vote for the next features
ricecake@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
www.mozillafoundation.org/en/donate/ if you’re actually interested in donating.
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 3 weeks ago
I would donate if I ever had spare money but I never do.
ripcord@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
$5?
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 3 weeks ago
Make fun of the poors yeah?