Waymo self driving cars are very good imo, I live near a location where they operate and drive along side them daily on my way to work and have ridden in one twice. They are way better than human drives in my area.
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bold_atlas@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Feeling a bit smug since I was early adopter of calling “self-driving” cars a grift. Remember when it was just a fact that cars were all going to be self-driving by now?
Zetta@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
bold_atlas@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Look at all the crap they have to have on the cars just to operate in highly developed city. That’s never never coming to a consumer cars.
Zetta@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Honestly, no clue. Probably not. You’re right, they have a big obstacle in the way of becoming profitable if they aren’t because they only operate in certain areas they have a lot of training data for.
PangurBan@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’ve never heard that. Like, anywhere. Lol
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
musk:
2016 “We should be able to do 90 percent of miles driven [autonomously] within three years.”
2015 “A Tesla car next year will probably be 90-percent capable of autopilot. Like, so 90 percent of your miles can be on auto. For sure highway travel.”
2018 “From a technology standpoint, Tesla will have a car that can do full autonomy in about three years, maybe a bit sooner.”
2018 “We’re going to end up with complete autonomy, and I think we will have complete autonomy in approximately two years.”
2019 “I consider autonomous driving to be a basically solved problem. … We’re less than two years away from complete autonomy. Regulators however will take at least another year; they’ll want to see billions of miles of data.”
you apparently haven’t paid attention to the grifter in chief
Kissaki@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
That’s only musk though. Hardly “was undeniable fact”.
Remember when it was an undeniable fact that most cars would be driving entirely by themselves by now?
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’ve never heard that. Like, anywhere. Lol
the person I replied to.
Dasus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah me neither. I’ve heard claims that automation will take away jobs from drivers in the future, but not anyone actually saying “it’s undeniable that by 2025 most cars will be driving entirely by themselves”. And I remember when GPS was a spy-gadget daydream you imagined having when using maps. (Actual, physical maps. Not Google/Apple Maps.)
BussyCat@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I heard it in the same vane that I heard that we would have a moon base by 2020 a mars base by 2025 and nuclear fusion in just 10 more years
Dasus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
To be fair, the progression estimate loading bar for fusion was stuck at “estimate… 30 years” for fucking ages.
And now there are actual reactors. Experimental, but still.
“With the completion of the conceptual design phase, the project will now shift to engineering design, accelerated engineering R&D, and will proceed with site selection, site preparation, regulatory approvals, and the procurement of long-lead items, with the aim of construction after 2028,” it said.
Cybersteel@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
My campus has a self driving mini bus service though there’s a real driver in the driver’s seat jic.
jj4211@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Funny part was that tesla taxis also had a human attendant, but for the sake of appearance made them sit on the passenger side. They deliberately limited staff from being able to interact with steering and pedals.
They eventually moved those to the driver seat.
bold_atlas@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I wonder if they had passenger side brake pedals like driving instructor cars do.
jj4211@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They did not, they had some touch screen button.
They basically needlessly increased risk for the sake of avoiding optics of a safety driver with direct controls possible.
ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
So was it worth it, if you still have to employ a mini-bus driver…?
Cybersteel@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No idea, when I attended, I walked to school after riding the train.
ozymandias117@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m sure all the Tesla apologist that kept saying “it only has to be safer than a human” whenever we pointed out how poorly the Tesla self-driving system works will change their tune now.
… Right?
Some of the lidar based systems might work, but Musk’s “humans only have eyes, so we only need cameras” is unlikely to ever work
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Six months from now. Just as true today as it was ten years ago.