The middle ground would be making these companies comply with rules that stop them manipulating users, but we already know that these companies would rather cop the fine and do the bad things anyway.
Comment on Reddit files legal challenge against social media ban for under-16s
Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Australia is a nanny state censoring the internet.
MoreZombies@quokk.au 1 month ago
Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Then increase the fines.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 month ago
then they leave and the whole country is banned from reddit, nice!
Az_1@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Someone hasn’t heard of virtual private networks (VPN)
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 month ago
from my pov if being a nanny state lets kids be more like kids and less like little phone addicts having their dopamines blown I don’t mind it
there are other countries looking at doing the same
Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
You can regulate big tech without banning support groups.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 month ago
tbf i’d go even further, I’d ban over 65’s as well 😶🌫️
Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I’d ban you, because you’re silly.
dan@upvote.au 1 month ago
Parents should be doing a better parenting, rather than relying on the state to do it for them.
zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 1 month ago
Parents can compete against teams of people whose goal is to make their platform as addictive as possible? Nah, it’s a systemic problem and it won’t be solved by some parents sometimes doing something of limited effectiveness. Nor will it be solved by blanket bans.
Karjalan@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Ugh “parents should do better parenting” is such neo lib individualist bullshit
dan@upvote.au 1 month ago
Maybe I shouldn’t have included that in my comment, but my point about trying to ban kids from doing stuff being ineffective still stands.
Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
It’s hard already when parents are overburdened with trying to pay the bills.
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 month ago
so you’re in favour of it then? less need for parents to worry about what misinformation and disinformation is being supplied by paid actors on facebook, win/win ?
Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 month ago
I don’t disagree, but this law could have been an opportunity to give parents better tools with which to parent.
It is far, far too difficult for any parent today to impose parental controls on their kids’ devices. Parental controls are an afterthought, put in place barely enough to tick the box saying “we have parental controls”, and not effectively doing much of anything. The law could have forced tech companies to do better and make it easy for parents to use effectively.
njm1314@lemmy.world 1 month ago
What else should people be allowed to do to children just because the parents aren’t “vigilant” enough?
Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 1 month ago
Hey both of these are covered on the FAQ
proxy to bypass blocked sites was common knowledge
It’s not a technological block, the social media sites will rely on a variety of signals, for example if you sign up for a facebook account in USA, but take a selfie geolocating you in australia and image scan picks up that you might be under 16, you’ll still get pinged for id check
amongst the smarter kids
They are targeting all under 16’s, and this is mentioned as well, even if 10% of kids get around the ban somehow, the fact that 90% don’t removes a huge part of the social in social network
dan@upvote.au 1 month ago
even if 10% of kids get around the ban somehow, the fact that 90% don’t removes a huge part of the social in social network
The kids that get around the ban will spread that knowledge to others. That’s what happened when I went to school, and I don’t think it’s any different today.
DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Hearing in that Australia can straight up not classify a game and therefore ban it is outrageous.
The Mortal Kombat 9 virtue signaling
shirro@aussie.zone 1 month ago
Not really. The legislation is stupid but the big tech companies are predatory and needed to be regulated. As does the gambling industry.
It is just very poorly done. I have to go find a new music app now for the family as we can’t all use Youtube Music Premium anymore so it is a waste of money. My kids youtube accounts were managed under family link and had comments disabled some content restrictions and no ads. The ads are as harmful as social media IMO - sexualising kids, creating insecurity over appearance, clothing, weight, pushing unhealthy food, gambling, divisive politics.
I can use hacked youtube clients on some platforms but they are closed source from less trusted parties and could be a security risk. I can try and trick YT with vpns and a set of new accounts but thats going to be tricky. Making fake adult accounts is no good as I can’t manage adult accounts under family link and apply the restrictions I want.
But reddit can fuck right off. Hope they get laughed out of court.
BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org 1 month ago
Very sensible take
CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 1 month ago
100% y’all screech once they come for fed shit.
pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 month ago
this law covers the fediverse. aussie.zone now has a verification process
indomara@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Starting on Dec 27th Aussies will have to prove their age before using Google search. It’s absurd.
Ilandar@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Only if they are signed into a Google account.
melbaboutown@aussie.zone 1 month ago
Can you still access the connected email? Dumb question but I’m not certain of how it all works
melbaboutown@aussie.zone 1 month ago
I think it’s to sign in to google. But still that’s going to restrict access to information if you don’t verify.
Not reasonable :/
Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
You could try alternativeto.net/software/quobuz/about/