Comment on YSK that in most countries, traffic fatalities have been falling. But in the U.S., the opposite happened. Americans die in rising numbers

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• NOT_RICK@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You shouldn’t be downvoted, this is yet another account that posts likely for sentiment shaping and immediately deletes their account. This sub is awash with it. I get that there’s a lot to dump on in regards to the US now more than ever but I’d really prefer it be organic posts from people who actually want to engage in the fediverse in good faith rather than whatever the fuck this manipulative bullshit is

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  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    its definitely bot behaviour, they do the same thing and then delete immediately on reddit too, usually coming from some kinda propaganda source. its a way to partially evade the filters.

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• SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Should people… Not be critical? There’s always been so much glazing of the US throughout history

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  • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s not that they’re being critical, it’s that someone is being shady with some sort of motive. I don’t want the fediverse to get ruined with narrative attack bs, I want to talk to real humans who aren’t trying to manipulate me. If I was cool with that I’d just go back to Reddit.

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    • Scrollone@feddit.it ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I agree with you, but this is a link to a New York Times article, not some shady blog just made to push an agenda.

      If people didn’t find this article interesting, they could just not upvote it.

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      • architect@thelemmy.club ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        NYT isn’t exactly much better than a shady blog. Like most media now.

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    • DrDickHandler@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s cute but Lemmy has the same agenda pushing bots that Reddit has.

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  • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The poster’s account is about a day old. For more context. (Voyager shows you an icon and age when accounts are new. Just like Apollo did)

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    • RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Boost does as well, little chick popping out of an egg

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      • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Nice. I think it should be a standard feature. And the need is ever increasing, it seems.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      i wonder if its these bot spammers im hearing about from another forum that is considering targeting lemmy like they do with reddit, as a way to warm up or drump up thier "eventual linking thier businesses). on the other note, it could be propaganda bots testing the waters.

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  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s the astroturfing that’s objectionable.

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  • qarbone@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Throughout history? Whose?

    The USA’s international opinion has been on the downtrend for like 20 years, with its precipitous drop like 10 years ago.

    It’s not the '90s anymore; the only people pushing American exceptionalism are ignoramuses and jingoists who will do that regardless of any facts, not normal citizens.

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    • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve always found the other half of American exceptiolism to be equally stupid;the opinion that America is the worst country ever, ir, exceptionally evil or bad among history.

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      • qarbone@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah, every country that is a world power now is looking down from a mountain of ravaged bodies.

        America is only the latest, and doing so in an era where the victims can livestream back the atrocities committed in the name of the country’s “empire”.

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    • atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A lot of people in my country used to believe until very recently (and a lot others still believe) that the USA is the best country in the world (or second best because of nationalism) and that everyone wishes they could go there

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  • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Critical of bots? Yes. Among other things.

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  • Bakkoda@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Always be critical of the source. That’s not to say you shouldn’t ever be critical of the content obviously.

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• shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And… deleted.

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• ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Lmao they deleted the entire account when called out. Sketchy af.

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  • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    huh!

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• Silar@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Nah dude the world has just grown tired of American Exceptualism.

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• elvis_depresley@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Sure, but does it make it less real?

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• Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You say all of those things as if it were specific to anti-USA posting. Lemmy is ripe and full of anti-China and anti-Russia AstroTurf-seeming accounts:

  A post a week ago made a brief list of some accounts (not complete by any means)

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  • Serinus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    anti-China and anti-Russia

    Uh huh. Yeah okay.

    We’ve had enough projection for a lifetime this decade.

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    • Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Is it not possible to portray anti-China or anti-Russian bias? Or is it that you don’t care about astroturfing when it’s done for such purpose?

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• 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Good! These post are a good reminder that this isn’t reddit.

  Don’t like it? You can go back to US propaganda sites.

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  • ronl2k@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Don’t like it? You can go back to US propaganda sites.

    I don’t see the benefit of replacing US propaganda with anti-US propaganda.

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    • 3abas@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Is the argument presented the propaganda or the fact that it was negative?

      It’s NYTimes propaganda, not exactly Russian or Chinese.

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