Comment on Valve dev counters calls to scrap Steam AI disclosures, says it's a "technology relying on cultural laundering, IP infringement, and slopification"

Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  As an engineer, tell that to my seat-flattened ass Tim Apple.

  Companies that use AI in production are sewing the seeds of their own demise.

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• Kissaki@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It’s sad how huge companies are basically their CEO. CEO makes decisions and talks - that’s the company. Even if the hundreds and thousands of workers below them [largely] disagree and would do differently.

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  • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    This is especially bad in USA, but usually a bit better in European countries that have representation of the unions on the board.

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  • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You can tell most everything you need to know about a company by looking at the CEO. That’s because they’re the leader, they set the tone, contrary to lemmy beliefs. Happy or unhappy employees? Look to the CEO. Solid earnings, year after year after year? CEO. BUT…

    A) Ultimately, CEOs do what the fucking board of directors wants, or they get fired, hence, the golden parachute. Would you take a monster job knowing that you could be forced to fuck your industry reputation and not hedge that bet? Nah. Force me to do something stupid yet needful? I want paid when you fire me on purpose for doing what you said.

    B) I think you are in an echo chamber around here. Most CEOs are great folks, you only hear about the major fuck ups at the major companies. Also, the decisions the big dogs make that lemmy tells you are unpopular, really aren’t unpopular in the wider world. EA Games still exists after all.

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    • Septimaeus@infosec.pub ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Board of directors

      Correct. The board defines the company, not the CEO.

      CEOs are usually puppets. Whatever role they play, you can bet they were hired specifically to play it, and were incentivized to stick to the script.

      Their job (legally, their fiduciary obligation) is to maximize shareholder value, to take the credit or blame, and fuck off.

      The board (typically key stakeholders) are so pleased when the public focuses on their CEOs, even if it’s for their shitty opinions, behavior, or obnoxious salaries.

      Because the worst thing that could happen to them would be for the public eye to actually follow the money, and it’s easy to see why. If the rabble truly understood how many more golden parachutes you were sitting on, they might ask you to share.

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• vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Why do they say these stupid things as if they were giving an order?

  They can’t order people to buy their stuff, they can’t order their stuff to work when it doesn’t. Having “AI” in it doesn’t change the latter part in case they think otherwise, just got this idea.

  I suppose they like the change from the old “spend lots of resources, then scale indefinitely” with software development to the more traditional in other spheres “spend constant amount of resources for constant result”, and expect it will build hierarchies like everywhere.

  Well, companies were going bankrupt long before personal computing.

  Well, I don’t know about Epic Games, I think I’ll play Oolite in free time when I’m done with my EU4 addiction. Or actually make something useful.

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• shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  everyone will have to 'fess up to using it eventually as AI will become "involved in nearly all future production.

  True enough! No reason not to say it up front, right?

  Look y’all, not 1-in-20 people give a flying fuck about AI like we do on here.

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  • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That is true, but for instance Ian M Banks predicted AI being able to make art already back in the 70’s in his Culture series of books.
    Even accurately simulating famous artists. And his conclusion was that AI should not make art at all, because it would end up detracting from the value of art.

    I think the reason the CEO is wrong, is that it will be a legal shitshow, and I think AI art may become illegal, or at the very least required to be clearly labeled as AI art.

    We will see how it turns out.

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    • mika_mika@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’ll call your bet and say that Sweeny is right. I think AI will become so commonplace that there will be no way around it and the market has already been streamlined in this direction.

      I would love it if my “feels” could be seen. But that is not reality. This battle is already long lost. Lemmy and the like can rage about it til their flames die out but it is a lost cause.

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