Comment on Waiting for Capitalism to collapse, so we can get this over with so we can reverse climate change and have nice memes, technology and the good end

Bababasti@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• marcos@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Burning everything will surely help Climate Change!

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  • NotSteve_@piefed.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I mean, in this theoretical situation it would. Ignoring the fact that it’s metaphorical, it’s sort of like saying we shouldn’t build windmills or nuclear power plants because the construction produces co2

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    • blarghly@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I mean… maybe burning everything down would mitigate climate change. But the collapse of global supply chains would lead to billions losing access to sufficient food, clean drinking water, internet, electricity/modern heating, medicine, etc. We would see mass migrations, war, famine, disease, and ecological devastation, all on a scale never before seen in the history of humanity. Ie, all the things we are trying to stop climate change in order to avoid.

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      • witten@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        This is a fun thought exercise but also a total strawman argument. There are many more reasonable ways to get rid of an oil company than to burn it all down overnight. Lots of countries have demonstrated examples of phased reductions of subsidies or increases in taxes to achieve a big policy shift in specific industries. A more radical but still not pants-on-head example is to nationalize a company or industry and then slowly and responsibly unwind it until there’s nothing left.

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  • Bababasti@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I mean… in a sense it would, no? (Not that I would want that tho)

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  • PrimeMinisterKeyes@leminal.space ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It has to get worse before it can get better.

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• the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There are so many people like you wanting the violence, but waiting for someone else to shoulder the risk. Performative rebellion.

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  • Bababasti@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s a lot of assuming you’re doing there.

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    • the_q@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Are you out there burning it to the ground?

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      • AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If they were, it would be extremely foolish to answer your question honestly.

        Even if they did say yes, you wouldn’t believe them anyway, so what’s the point in asking?

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• JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Oooh using gasoline to fight climate change. Literally fighting fire with fire. I like it.

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