Comment on Insulin

minorkeys@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• Woht24@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s almost like someone should go and shoot the CEO dead in the street

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  • reksas@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    ceos are like head slaves on plantation. While they are pieces of collaborating shits, they are not the root of this rot.

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    • Woht24@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, thanks armchair historian.

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      • reksas@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        oh what am i saying, REVOLUTION NOW!

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• Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  One could argue that patents and copyright are anti-capitalist

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  • Malfeasant@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They are, actually. The point of patents and copyright is not to protect the creator- that’s a temporary effect. The point is to release the thing to the public afterwards. The problem is that capitalism corrupts the process and finds ways to make the temporary effects permanent. Disney has succeeded in making copyright last effectively forever.

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  • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They are literally monopolies on whatever they concern.

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    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Correct. Patents and copyrights are state granted monopolies that are in direct opposition to free market forces that capitalism thrives on.

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      • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Sure, everyone shoudl work for free except you, of course.

        Patents only last 15 years. why isn’t the government making insulin.

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      • cornishon@lemmygrad.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Free market? As in, competition between different enterprises? And what do you think happens when one company “wins” that competition? It will use that power to establish a monopoly (or a cartel with a couple buddy companies). Both “free market” and “private monopoly” are capitalist fenomena, just at different stages of development of industry.

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  • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Copyrights and patents generate enormous amounts of wealth from rent seeking. This wealth has been used to continue to entrench these draconian concepts into our legal and governmental systems.

    Even worse they have been used to stop the spread of information and monopolize development thus slowing slow down technological advancement. So many people have died so these clowns can make a buck.

    One could argue that artificial scarcity is a farce, but unless you have more money than the people who benefit from IP, your voice will not be heard on a policy level.

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    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So, you agree patents and copyrights are contrary to capitalism and free markets?

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      • Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Personally, I think that if small business capitalism actually existed then it would run contrary to that.

        There would be no need for copyright or patents. These systems create artificial scarcity which hinders society as a whole to benefit a minority.

        I feel like our existing system of laissez-faire capitalism fully embraces the rent seeking found in intellectual property.

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  • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    In that case "real capitalism" doesn't exist, because patents have been a thing since checks notes 1474.

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    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Anti free market policies can exist within a capitalist structure.

      Historical existence of patents doesn’t destroy capitalism, nor make patents less anti capitalist.

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      • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Okay here's the thing: Calling policies that contribute to monopolies anti-capitalist makes no sense, because by this standard capitalism is anti-capitalist. It's not like monopolies appear out of thin air; concentration of wealth into monopolies or oligopolies is the only possible equilibrium state under capitalism, so deflecting the effects of these monopolies as "anti-capitalist" is an appeal to fiction.

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  • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And no capitalist would want to get rid of them.

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    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sam Altman very much wants to get rid of copyright.

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• DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Technically a funnel system for 1%.

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• quoll@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  yeah. but more importantly your fucked up excuse for democracy is fucked.

  plenty of capitalist countries that don’t have this problem.

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  • minorkeys@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Which ones?

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