Have you looked into what it takes to get a permanent visa to one of those countries? It’s not easy.
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TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I wondered if all the sane Americans did a max exodus to Canada, Europe, UK, Australia etc, what effect that wound have
pennomi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Master@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Its prohibitively impossible.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 weeks ago
Its not that hard especially for an American.
pennomi@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It is that hard, I’ve looked. You typically need to rank highly on a skill list AND have a relatively well-paying job offer. And if you think it’s hard interviewing in your own country, it’s far worse interviewing outside of it.
Fizz@lemmy.nz 2 weeks ago
What are you comparing it to? Americans have a much easier path to permanent residency than a vast majority of the world.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
I did it a while ago, would recommend.
Redkid1324@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Aren’t you still paying taxes to the USA? Just curious.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
You have to earn over something like 100k for the US to tax you.
Redkid1324@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ohhhh that’s interesting.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You still have to file, but you don’t need to pay taxes unless you’re earning enough that the visa won’t be a problem.
But, like, if you close everything out and never go back…
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
If you don’t mind sharing, did you have to pay the exit tax? Actually, what was your way out?
fossilesque@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
No exit tax. Academia route, I’ve been beelining an out since I was a teenager and I qualify for EU citizenship on heritage, working on that. I would like to thank my now irl friends from thousands of hours on EU MMORPG servers for unintentionally guiding me out.
frank@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Exit tax is only if you give up your US citizenship, which you definitely can’t do if you don’t have another citizenship and even then it’s very often not required
turdcollector69@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s already happening, there’s been a deluge of affluent people leaving the US.
We’re still at the stage where it takes considerable privilege to just leave everything behind and pay the exit extortion (40% of all your shit).
Once things get worse and people have nothing to leave behind you’ll start seeing the engineers/doctors escaping.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
the one that have money to migrate to another country have done it already. buts mostly PHD level professionals, rather difficult for people who only have a ms or bs with no established career already. unless you well off enough to be able to move.
WALLACE@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Please no, there’s already people rioting over Afghans immigrating here, we don’t need to add Yanks to the equation
PunnyName@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
A lot of us would need financial sponsorship. So there’d be a literal financial drain on those economies.
I still would like to sign up.
Soup@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Not if you stayed, then it’s an investment. Money doesn’t just disappear when goes to poor people, they use it to buy things like food and stuff. It would only be a financial drain if you were sending that money back home.
The North American mind cannot comprehend the benefits of supporting the poor.
slothrop@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
UBI should be ubiquitous.
UBI = Universal Basic Income
bigboitricky@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Amazing Americans say with their full chest this is socialism
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Perhaps strain would be a better word than drain - it would still be a short-mid term financial burden to take even a tiny fraction of the sane population from the US, it’s a big country.
PunnyName@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
True.
Soup@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Don’t worry, there aren’t that many sane people in the US. A lot of them are under the impression that they’re sane because they take the “balanced” position, though, which is to say that they just choose whatever’s in between fascism and barely progressive policy while they call themselves intelligent.
Frankly I’m not sure I’d want a bunch of people who cannot take accountability and who have such main-character energy they think that they would be allowed in while “bad” people wouldn’t be. We have enough problems with similar mindsets here in Canada and I really don’t want more of that except now they’re making it even harder to get away from our useless, conservative, Liberal(capital L) party.
user224@lemmy.sdf.org 2 weeks ago
And a hell of a good one. Adults will have already passed through education, so we would save on that part.
PunnyName@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I get that, the initial investment would be pretty significant.
I’m not against it of course, I just think it’s necessary to understand the risks of any gamble.
klay1@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The real drain is the infinite black hole of the rich guys pockets. That is where all the money is. Don’t blame people who send money to their loved ones to help, just because there is a border.