Comment on RAM is so expensive that stores are selling it at market prices

Artisian@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• scintilla@crust.piefed.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Hi I can explain the difference. The three other things you listed are necessary for a multitude of reasons. The current boom in data centers is for a solution in search of a problem wasting shit for no gain to humanity as a whole.

  Hope that helps :3

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  • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Also the scariest part of this datacenter inflation is how much of these new data centers are going to be abandoned within the next 5 years when the AI bubble pops and suddenly the companies spending like crazy on datacenter growth need to cut back. There’ll be lots of big empty buildings outside of small towns costing taxpayers a ton of money, much like when any big box store closes up shop. You can either spend a ton of money tearing it down, a ton of money rebuilding it into something useful, a ton of money attracting another business which may or may not front the cost for remodeling the space or a ton of money maintaining the empty property so it doesn’t fall over and become even more of a blight. There’s no winning for these small municipalities that just get used and abused by large businesses

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  • Artisian@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Growing inefficient cattle crops in a desert to preserve water rights: not necessary.

    Flying Coast to coast for a business meeting that could be an email: not necessary.

    Manufacturing those cheap scissors that break after 2 uses: should be a crime (not necessary).

    All of these subcases have comparable emissions and externalities to the data centers (at least by my fermin estimates).

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• stevedice@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s easier to bitch about the woes of a thing I already don’t like than to have to make any effort in changing my habits, mmkay?

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• ulterno@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yeah, the main problems right now, seem to be electricity consumption, causing price hikes in surrounding areas.

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  • Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Its not just electricity but also water consumption, and noise pollution if not particulate pollution too.

    They provide little benefit to the surrounding communities with very few jobs by design and just consume local resources at usually discounted bulk rates to sell a service that possibly nobody locally would be in the market for

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    • ulterno@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I have said this before somewhere, but this feels like something that would be very well suited for places where electricity prices have gone extremely low due to “too many solar panels”.

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  • Artisian@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Which feels to me like terrible policies still. Make big projects pay their costs please!

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    • ulterno@programming.dev ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s a bit different in this case.

      The responsibility of providing electricity falls onto the nearby power plant, which then also has to increase their production.
      But the maker of the new electricity consumer does not need to pay for the capital or anything else really, apart from the electrical rates (and some minimal fixed rates) that they are using.

      Some governments are coming up with interesting, seemingly effective regulations, though.

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      • Koarnine@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        What type of regulations are we talking, or at least which country’s?

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• Engywuck@lemmy.zip ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yeah, but the average Lemme/Redditor is not going to waste an opportunity to pretend caring, pointing his/her finger and accumulate fake internet points.

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  • Artisian@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I do feel obligated to at least expose folks to numeracy, even if they won’t listen. Hope it’s not giving them a repeated trauma somehow.

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