And “only” 5000 years if you count when people started using yeast for bread production, since the bread ain’t the same without yeast.
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ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
More like about 10,000 years ago when humans started farming and agriculture to grow crops at scale to make bread … then at about the same time they domesticated cows in order to harvest milk and figure out how to make and store butter.
TeNppa@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
NateNate60@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Flour + water = hardtack
Flour + water + yeast = bread
Flour + water + yeast + butter = toast
Flour + water + yeast + butter + sugar = muffin
Flour + water + yeast + butter + sugar + eggs = cake
Flour + water + yeast + butter + sugar + eggs + chocolate = brownie
Flour + water + yeast + butter + sugar + eggs + chocolate + cream = cupcake
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
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affenlehrer@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
It’s pretty hard not to use yeast. It’s everywhere and if you wait long it enough it’ll start to ferment. Look at what some Orthodox Jews go through to make unleavened bread.
sukhmel@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
I got the opposite of whet you meant at first, did you mean ‘to prevent it from leavening at all’? I found this in wiki and only then did I got it:
Dough is considered to begin the leavening process 18 minutes from the time it gets wet; sooner if eggs, fruit juice, or milk is added to the dough. The entire process of making matzah takes only a few minutes in efficient modern matzah bakeries.
affenlehrer@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Sorry for the confusion. This 18 minutes thing was exactly what I tried to say!
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
There are plenty of bread without yeast.
TeNppa@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
Yes there are, but the one in the picture clearly was made with yeast.
ShamanRonin@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
We gatekeeping bread now?
Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
I know this, and you know this. Shh. Don’t ruin the meme
Rothe@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Pre-agricultural humans did still have access to flour and milk though.
snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
But what did they milk to make butter?
Dozzi92@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The earliest known bread recipe dates back approximately 14,500 years, discovered in a stone fireplace at a site in northeastern Jordan, where charred remains of a pita-like flatbread were found.
sundray@lemmus.org 3 weeks ago
Man, it must have been hella stale by then.
Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Nothing a little water and microwave can’t fix
siha@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Just gotta put a glass of water next to it