I’m still a little curious how that will work for games. Are they going to somehow emulate Win32 amd64 games? Do devs have to recompile them in some new way? Will engines support it beyond Unity and Unreal?
Comment on Steam Hardware [new Steam Controller, Steam Machine, and VR headset Steam Frame, coming in 2026]
newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I posted this in the other thread, but wanna share here too:
Most interesting thing to me is the Frame apparently runs a Snapdragon 8 Gen 3, and is using SteamOS, implying official ARM support for SteamOS, Steam and Proton! Could mean steam and proton coming to android too.
Katana314@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
charizardcharz@piefed.world 12 hours ago
It was mentioned in the LTT coverage. Aside from native ARM games they have a translation layer(FEX) to play x86 games on ARM. They'll have a "Verified" tag like the Steam Deck for compatibility. I assume you'll still be able to force trying to run unverified games.
Harvey656@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
That same video says that “Valve has heavily contributed to FEX”
charizardcharz@piefed.world 8 hours ago
Well, that shows how well I was paying attention to the video
Natanael@slrpnk.net 12 hours ago
Yup, FEX to translate x86 to ARM.
baronvonj@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
The Frame isn’t playing the games natively on its ARM chip. It’s just streaming audio/visual data from the PC and relaying the controller inputs back to the PC.
tal@lemmy.today 10 hours ago
That’s the normal mode of operation, but it can apparently also run games locally on thr Frame itself, which I guess gives people a portable — if less powerful — gaming option that they can haul around easily if they want.
baronvonj@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Hm, guess I missed that part, my bad.
grue@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Jeff Geerling is probably having a fit right now.
noxypaws@pawb.social 8 hours ago
what does that homophobic ass have to do with it, is he not a fan of ARM or something?
grue@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
…wat.
I think you must be thinking of some other Jeff Geerling. The one I’m talking about is probably the #1 guy on Youtube for content about ARM stuff, and AFAIK isn’t a homophobe.
Your comment doesn’t make any sense because, even if you were talking about the right person and your accusation were accurate, why would you know some obscure thing about him while being unaware of the thing he’s famous for?
__hetz@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
Going back roughly a decade you can find blog posts and some bits on Twitter. I don’t see anything outright gay-bashing but his moral worldview, when he speaks on the matter, seems to be shaped by his Catholic faith. I don’t think he hates homosexuals, and I can’t guess at how his beliefs effect others (who for, or how, he votes and such), but he certainly seems to have a moral opposition and hasn’t since stated otherwise that I am aware.
If you need a smoking gun, here’s a quote from Twitter around 2017. Context is that this apparently stemmed from the removal of developer Larry “Cell” Garfield over “Gorean” (?) beliefs or participation in that subculture. Relating to some BDSM, male-domination, female slaves “Gor” novel series, that I cannot be assed to dig deeper into, and concerns he’d carry the “misogyny” into into the workplace. Anyway:
The Drupal community is treading perilous waters right now. Risk of excluding more members than just Crell. Careful with moral equivalence! It’s a heck of a lot more nuanced than that. But basically, if the criteria for being part of the Drupal community anymore is “Must both publicly and privately support Gay marriage, etc.” then… I think I might be excluded.
As an atheist looking in, I find Abrahamic faiths fundamentally incompatible with homosexuality. Having a gay Christian marriage, for example, is an absurdity to me. To be clear I’m not personally opposed to it. I find very much wrong with his faith but I don’t believe Jeff is wrong about his faith. But kudos and power to whoever wants to lie to themselves and retcon Christianity in order to believe (what I perceive to be) a bigger, more comforting lie. If we can keep eroding at it maybe we’ll finally get over the hatred and hangups it causes, or at least no longer be able to point to it as a justifying source.
Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 hours ago
Oh shit he’s homophobic?
stupidcasey@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
It is fascinating and a huge step, but I want to keep expectations low. It will work, but it will not be as compatible as x86 Proton, not at all. It is first and primarily an OS for streaming games and running VR. That is the VR rendering from the streaming computer, not the VR game itself. In other words, they only had to get exactly one app to run well enough for public use. According to the developer, it is working with a surprising amount of games. I agree, one game is surprising, but trust me when I say you will not be running Windows x86 games in ARM Linux for a long time.
theterrasque@infosec.pub 10 hours ago
It’s using an x86 compatibility layer, pex i think it was called. So apparently you will be running windows x86 games on it.
tal@lemmy.today 10 hours ago
I think that for running games locally on the Frame, for anything other than games designed specifically to be gentle on a battery — and many games are not, unfortunately — you’re also really going to need to leave it plugged into a powerbank. The internal battery just isn’t that large relative to what the device can draw.
pcgamer.com/…/steam-frame-specs-availability/
The battery included on the Steam Frame is a 21 Wh model. The Snapdragon system-on-chip gobbles up around 20 W at full power—that’s how much it’ll likely use while playing a game locally in standalone mode. From this, we can expect around an hour of playtime without additional charge.
DrDystopia@lemy.lol 7 hours ago
I want backpack sized battery banks.
tal@lemmy.today 5 hours ago
You could probably put a 400 Wh powerbank in a backpack (search for “power station” on Amazon).
dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
And the base would be Arch Linux ARM, right? So that should see an uptick in development too.
kilgore_trout@feddit.it 11 hours ago
Arch Linux has been implementing a build system for other architectures. Perhaps they’ll make ARM official by the time Frame comes out.
G0ldenSp00n@lemmy.jacaranda.club 25 minutes ago
If I remember correctly Valve paid for this build system specifically for ARM support, so yeah I think that is going to happen.