Comment on Game marketing company takes down blog post bragging about how good it is at astroturfing Reddit after Reddit finds the post

• real_squids@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  And of insanely easy account creation. You didn’t even need an email.

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  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Reddit doesn’t require email either.

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    • real_squids@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I was talking about reddit. Lemmy, at least the instances i was on, needs manual approval

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      • Creat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They can literally setup an instance themselves. By the time it is identified as such, the damage is basically done. Just make a new one. Or use one of the many instances not requiring approval. Or fill out the form with ai. They don’t actually need an insane number of accounts for their subterfuge. Having just “some” and keeping them tied to conversational themes/topics seems sufficient?

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• piyuv@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’d argue it is resistant. Lemmy is federated, which means smaller instances, making it easier to detect this kind of activity. Crime in a city vs crime in a town situation

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  • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Nah, it works for now because no one really tries to spam lemmy. If it gets popular enough companies will pay bot farms to post here and admins want be able to keep up with moderation. Bots will simply join the biggest instances. The only solution would be to defederate the main instances and have everyone pretty much host their own server.

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    • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Think I would agree there, small reddit communities are also going to be more resistant to it. Small hobbyist stuff probably one of the better ones.

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    • carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      look at Mastodon and it’s practically what’s happening there. bot farms don’t even bother setting up their own servers, they just go to mastodon.social (by far the largest instance) and bot from there. and because .social refuses to have manual approval for each account, the problem keeps happening.

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      • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I didn’t know that but it’s nice to know I was 100% right.

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    • Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think to an extent yes, but not quite as bad as Reddit. Reddit admins will completely ignore reports about these. I think most Fediverse admins won’t ignore them.

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    • groet@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      And if everybody hosts their own server, than so will the advertisers and everybody will have to defederate then individually making the problem of moderation even worse.

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      • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        When it gets bad enough the default will switch from blacklists to whitelists and the user base will consolidate to fewer and fewer popular instances that are able to address the spam.

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      • ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        But hosting servers cost real money so creating thousands of them may not be cost effective for spammers. Paywalls are the best defense against spammers. Of course this is all hypothetical. Self hosting will never be mainstream. Or maybe? 🤔

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• Aielman15@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Oh, absolutely. Which is why I avoid popular social media: you just end up drowning in AI/botted content.

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