Comment on Palantir CEO Says a Surveillance State Is Preferable to China Winning the AI Race

• arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I will never understand the hypocritical surveillance state apologism when it comes to China or Russia on this site.

  If China’s surveillance state was purely for the benefit of their citizens, they wouldn’t need such an extensive censorship apparatus that frequently censors minorities and minority beliefs (e.g. LGBT topics) as well as content that reflects particularly poorly on the government.

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  • Telorand@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Precisely. Just ask Naomi Wu (SexyCyborg) how much she enjoys the surveillance state, how much she enjoyed being disappeared for a few months, how much she enjoys being told not to do any more techno State Resistance content, and how much she enjoys being able to leave but can’t, because her partner is queer.

    Really, its a bunch of people who either like being in an in-group and/or they like feeling superior/powerful by promoting authoritarian communism.

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    • Auli@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So no different the America. Just that America is going after the “Illegals” right now.

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      • 1985MustangCobra@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        why is this the staple response? “yeah but america”

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      • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Two things can be bad at the same time.

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  • brachiosaurus@mander.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I will never understand the hypocritical surveillance state apologism when it comes to China or Russia on this site.

    People get brainwashed to conform, when they don’t like a side they urge to pick another

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  • humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If China’s surveillance state was purely for the benefit of their citizens, they wouldn’t need such an extensive censorship apparatus

    The freedom to lie and defraud, with money = speech, therefore money = terrorism, fraud, oppression is not constructive. Divisiveness and hate is not constructive. Inviting CIA to dominate your country’s speech is inviting terrorism, fraud, oppression as we see in every US colony.

    Repressing American Oligarchist values propaganda is necessary for any constructive society. Nothing about them has the slightest humanist value. Gay pride is just as much a supremacist overstep as religious pride. AFAIK, there is no criminality (even in Russia) for homosexuality or religion. The supremacism is oppressed. CIA needs the divisiveness of supremacism/evangelism in order to destroy/conquer vassals.

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    • SaraTonin@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      hrw.org/…/russia-rising-toll-of-lgbt-extremism-de…

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      • humanspiral@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There’s a difference between the freedom to be gay (exists in Russia), and the freedom to advocate for LGBT supremacism with CIA funding.

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    • SlurpingPus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      AFAIK, there is no criminality (even in Russia) for homosexuality or religion.

      You don’t know shit about fuck.

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