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warm@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  So basically you have not tried it but complain about things you expect because…? Are you an EA or IGN employee or something?

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  • warm@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I tried it. It's pretty bland, I already said that. You are allowed to enjoy it, that was just my opinion. No need to get defensive.

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    • borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Did you try it by buying it and then refunding? Or do you mean you played the server slam a few weeks ago?

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      • warm@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        The core gameplay loop hasn't changed between any of the "beta" tests and release.

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• Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It’s bland? You can not like it if you want. That’s fine (if you’ve played it). Don’t make shit up though. In the realm of modern shooters, it definitely isn’t bland. It’s pretty unique. It’s got a style you don’t see anywhere else (though still based in realism), and the gameplay isn’t like many other games.

  The enemies in particular are incredible though. That’s where it stands out. They’re actually physically based, and if you shoot out a leg or motor then they adjust to compensate. They used some machine learning to have them run in simulations where they learned how to move with different pieces missing. It’s really special how they feel.

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  • warm@kbin.earth ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It's bland. That's my opinion. If you don't think so that's fine, but that is literally what an opinion is. The style is very similar to their old Frostbite games. You can see the EA Star Wars Battlefront in it.

    The drones just being physics based isnt all that impressive that it makes the game for me, it's not exactly revolutionary, similar things have existed before anyway. The gameplay is like you see in a lot of other games, that's why I think it's bland. It's your run-of-the-mill 3rd person shooter, with some basic extraction shooter elements added.

    If you enjoy it, fantastic go have fun, doesn't mean I have to like it and you don't have to defend the game or your position at all.

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    • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Every game is bland. Nothing is ever wholey unique. It takes elements from other things.

      Whats the last “non-bland” game you’ve played?

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      • warm@kbin.earth ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I'm sorry you feel that way.

        This might have been a bad time for you to ask, because I just finished Outer Wilds.

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• tortina_original@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  What MTX are you talking about?

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    What extraction shooter doesn’t have MTX?

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    • fuzzyfirefox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Zero Sievert doesn’t have any, but it’s a single player experience. Still a great game IMHO.

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    • BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Helldivers 2.

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      • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        1. HD2 is not an extraction shooter.

        2. It Roes have MTX… You just can also earn that shut for free if tou grind hard enough.

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      • Nelots@piefed.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I don’t think I would call HD2 an extraction shooter. I mean sure, you shoot things and try to extract, but for the same reason HD2 isn’t a RPG just because you can roleplay or an RTS just because you need to make strategic decisions in real time, there’s a lot more to these genres that HD2 doesn’t include. Hell, technically you don’t even need to extract, as the only thing successfully extracting gives you is any samples you find… completing the mission counts as a win regardless.

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  • warm@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Skins and such that cost as much as the game itself. The industry has gone crazy and consumers keep sucking it up.

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    • tortina_original@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      “Shoves MTX in your face like crazy” = skins in a STORE tab?

      Yeah, don’t think I will continue the conversation.

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      • warm@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        One look at the menus says otherwise, but I'd rather not continue the conversation anyway.

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    • CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You know what’s cool? Skins don’t impact gameplay at all! You don’t actually have to buy them!

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      • warm@kbin.earth ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Exactly! A good example of consumer complacency!

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      • Goodeye8@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Things being cosmetic does not justify the outlandish price. 20€ for a skin, emote and some trinkets is a stupid price.

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    • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I’ll agree with the other comment; ARC does not shove then in your face. The only time you see that stuff can be purchased is when you go to the customization menu. That’s it. You also get some of the premium currency for free.

      I’m pretty confident theyll handle it well because in The Finals I’ve been playing for about ~2 years and have purchased most of the battle passes and some outfit stuff, all with putting no money into the game. This is a $40 game. I suspect it will be handled well.

      You can purchase extra stuff, but you can’t say it’s shoved in your face. It definitely is not. It’s just a way to get extra money from whales. I think it’s probably not smart for a game to ship without some MTX at this point. You can make the game cheaper for most people by having the whales fund it. It’s practical.

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