Comment on The people who protest against the Palestinian Genocide would be the same people who protested against the Holocaust.

Cyberflunk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I mean a Polish resistance fighter willingly infiltrated Auchswitz in 1941 and broke out in 1943 with incontrovertible evidence. They just weren’t taken seriously.

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• dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That’s nation-state apologia. They just ignored all the evidence because genocide wasn’t even defined yet in International Humanitarian Law, they just didn’t care. Remember that even the US had concentration camps inside the US for foreigners, almost all of them Japanese people. They just felt this was a normal thing armies did to control populations deemed risky (see the ghettoisation of black communities, history of segregation and the systematic wipe out of indigenous tribes). They knew, armies even went directly to the locations of the concentration camps, they already knew where almost all of them were. Like, inside Germany it was not entirely a secret either. German officials boasted about the whole thing in international forums and in propaganda.

  The term Genocide, even, was coined by a polish-Jewish lawyer in 1942, Raphael Lemkin precisely because of what was known at the time of what the Nazis were doing against Jewish people and his own experiences surviving the Holocaust.

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  • Deceptichum@quokk.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    He saw genocide as an inherently colonial process, and in his later writings analyzed what he described as the colonial genocides occurring within European overseas territories as well as the Soviet and Nazi empires

    Based.

    Honestly it sounds like we need to go back to his definition of genocide. So many have since been led to believe it can only look like a Zyklon B shower.

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  • Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Concentration camps yes, but Death Camps with gas chambers and crematoria, not intended to hold people for any longer than it took to “exterminate” them, were new. Even slave-labor camps of the sort where inmates were starved and worked to death were frowned upon, not considered normal. That’s why the Nazi lied, and created false camp films for propaganda.

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    • dustyData@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Agree, but it was just how normalized internment camps were (Hitler claimed he got inspired by US ideas of population control). Even though there weren’t executions, the conditions were so bad that at least 1800 out of 120 thousand people died.

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• corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  literally freed

  Is there any other way?

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• starlinguk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “Earth” already knew before the war started.

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• jimmy90@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  you’d think we’d be able to see the genocidal intent of the arabs easier given this experience, although it began before wwii

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