fakeplastic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Literally no one is throwing away a working machine just because some deadline passes.
yes. yes they are. we’ve taken in a lot more ‘junk’ systems over the last six months than we ever have.
many of those who aren’t tossing their pc on the heap are paying for the updates or jumping through the link-and-sync bullshit for them.
microsoft’s scare tactics work, and work very well.
Lots of people will, I’ve had the discussion with multiple people bemoaning that that will have to upgrade because their computer isn’t compatible who. Have zero interest in learning a new OS. Heck my father has a laptop good enough for everything he does already and was talking about upgrading his desktop because it isn’t compatible.
Literally no one is throwing away a working machine just because some deadline passes.
You need to speak to every IT department worth a pinch of salt then; as no longer receiving security updates is a critical problem. That critical problem is solved by most IT departments by throwing away perfectly good computers and buying new ones.
Business IT is not personal IT. OP’s right. Joe User isn’t going to know or give a shit as long as his PC boots and he can get to FaceBook.
You are assuming their ai hallucinating or maliscous devs won’t push updates that break user choice.
They’ve been doing that for years already!
By saying things in public like “let’s rewrite the entire operating system,” Microsoft are not giving off reassuring vibes. They’re bringing these anxious responses upon themselves.
Li. Nux.
For me, anyway
They think the whole OS is just little text bar where you tell the AI what you want to do or something. It’s honestly hilarious how eager people are to add comments about something they know nothing about.
Ledivin@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Is it actually trivial, though? Does that trivial change turn off all of the various instances of AI scattered throughout the OS?
Do you actually believe they won’t release new things under different flags, and that you won’t have to play AI whack-a-mole every update?
atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Nope. It’s not. I had to follow multiple guides and use three different utilities including power shell, group policy editor, and regedit, and even then I didn’t get rid of everything until I got tired of them fucking with shit and used shutup10++ to just toggle everything off. And I’m lucky enough to only have windows on my work computer at this point and to have admin rights to that computer. This shit is exhausting. Every update breaks something new and brings back shit I have been trying to nuke from orbit.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I’m already playing security and AI whack-a-mole. I think you’re right.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Hi. I’m not the person you responded to, but up until about 8 months ago I was on Windows 7. You know how I didn’t deal with new updates and various things? By not having updated anything since about 2012. Maybe 2013? I legitimately have zero clue if I had firewall on or off for 10 years. I remember I had some issue in 2014. I remember turning it off, and that solved the issue. But I don’t remember, and also never cared, if I turned it back on.
You guys are SO worried you’ll get a virus. And update everything. Meanwhile the ONLY reason I started using linux is because I don’t like Windows 10. And firefox on Windows 7 finally got so out of date that websites refused to display things. Otherwise, I’d still be on Windows 7.
Point is, updates don’t matter. Security doesn’t matter. You can just tell your computer to never update anything, and it’ll be the same for a decade. You can live in your little bubble.
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You are free to do what you want, but do not give out advice like this to others. Security issues pop up constantly and not updating leaves you vulnerable to them.
For the room: If you want to stay on your unpatched machine, don’t plug it into the internet. Otherwise, use an OS that is currently receiving security updates.
anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
I mean driving without your safety belt works great until something happens. Doesn’t make it a good idea.
Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
Virgin security nerd vs chad botnet enjoyer
shalafi@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I’ve found that not playing stupid games earns you no stupid prizes. Everyone out here acting like goblins will materialize and ass rape your machine 2-seconds after updates end. (And yes, I know what zero-days are, been in IT for 25-years, Windows for 30.)
On a personal level, skipping updates is fine. As a sysadmin, I’m updating the fleet a week after I scan the news for unintended fuck ups.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
There’s always one…
No, not downloading security updates doesn’t make you a badass.
adarza@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
i’ve got one user who has refused to update their win7 system for a full decade–literally the entire lifecycle of win10. offered to set up a dual boot for her and she seemed to be receptive of that–even bought a nice big ssd drive for it, but she never used it and never upgraded. husband says that ssd is still in the damn box sitting on a shelf. i expect to hear from her when that now tired old hdd in her (i think) wolfdale-era win7 finally craps out.