Comment on The aws outage is so funny, I can see which companies are amazon scums.

Triumph@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• kescusay@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Sadly, there are some who don’t even know it, because they’re buying services from someone else that buys them from someone else that buys them from Amazon. So they’re currently wondering what the fuck is even going on, since they thought they weren’t using AWS.

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  • darvocet@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Well those people are fucking idiots.

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    • Flatfire@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That’s not really fair, I think. Smaller organizations are especially dispositioned here. Think small businesses, charities, local municipal services, etc. Small IT budgets, low staff (if any) and just enough to pad out a subscription cost to a service provider that fits their needs.

      AWS is an incredibly low cost solution, and it’s probably where most of these low cost services point themselves at when building platforms at scale. Not everyone can build and maintain a datacentre or home server for their every need.

      This isn’t to say that there are definitely idiots who pad their resume by chanting a prayer to SaaS and boasting about having moved their company to the “cloud” via a cheap and unreliable AWS rehoster, before failing upwards though.

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      • darvocet@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Fine, most of them are fucking idiots. Know where your infrastructure is people! Whois your IP.

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• nymnympseudonym@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’m pretty sure most of Azure (Microsoft), OCI (Oracle), and GCP (Google) have all been fine.

  Bezos is a craven beast but I don’t see many companies above with CEOs that I’d feel comfortable babysitting my teenage daughter

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  • Nighed@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The company I work for is an Azure shop. However, our provider for customer OTP tokens uses AWS… So still in trouble.

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  • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Once Larry Ellison owns TikTok he's going to be babysitting all the teenagers and a whole bunch of other people!

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    • Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I really hope that super villain wannabe croaks out real soon

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      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I don’t think his son is any better.

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  • Triumph@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Sure, but online services can certainly leverage multiple modules, from multiple companies, hosted in multiple places. So maybe your site mostly works fine, but a key aspect of it is broken.

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    • nymnympseudonym@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      from multiple companies

      See the above post from the Azure shop … that uses AWS for 2FA tokens

      You want to add multiple companies in parallel as alternates/failovers, not in serial where any one failure blocks the whole flow

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      • Triumph@fedia.io ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        But that would cost more money, that's anticapitalist.

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      • dubyakay@lemmy.ca ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Also allow things fail gracefully, independent of each other.

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• DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Lemmy seemed fine, Reddit did not.

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  • nymnympseudonym@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Lemmy seemed fine

    Federated, open source

    Reddit did not

    Centralized, corporate

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    • chilicheeselies@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      That doesnt really have anything to do with this issue. Lemmy can absolutly be hosted in AWS via ECS (or EKS if you love Kubernetes). Hell, it could be hosted directly on EC2 if preferred.

      Federation as a whole is more resilient because each operator can chose whatever hosting solution they prefer. But if your particular server happened to be hosted in AWS in the useast1 region; your shit was gonna be a bit busted.

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  • vegals@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Amen to that, good thing though. Got me to learn what Lemmy was. Apparently I’ve been under a rock.

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    • XiELEd@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Welcome to the fediverse!!

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• higgsboson@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Walmart.com would work fine, as they are rabidly anti-Amazon, especially AWS.

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  • bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Can confirm, about 10 years ago, the company I worked for migrated to AWS, and I managed the transition. We planned everything meticulously so that there would be no downtime, and used it as excuse to fix a lot of tech debt. No one was supposed to even notice the cutover, and when we did it, I expected the only feedback to be that things seemed faster and were working as expected. A few hours later, we get a complaint from an Account Manager for Walmart that they can’t access the platform at all. There was a lot of confusion and back and forth, turns out their IT department had an allow list or something in the corporate DNS to not resolve to AWS owned IPs unless approved. We eventually got them to add our domain to their allowlist, but it seemed insane that they would spend the effort to implement and maintain that level of control.

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    • chilicheeselies@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Amazon and walmart are competitors

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      • bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Totally, I understand that, but seemed to be an extreme measure they are inflicting on their employees that doesn’t really change anything. It’d be like if ExxonMobil didn’t allow their employees with company cars to fill up at a Chevron station.

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