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And they think the real world is reflective of what we talk about here. It’s truly bizarre. I’m terminally online, unemployed ATM, but I still get there’s an outside world.

Take all the Trump voter hate for example. Do they not truly understand how under and misinformed most American’s are? Watch Mamdami interview Trump voters in NYC. Not ONE was what we picture as MAGA.

Also, since Trump 1.0, people refuse to talk politics. We’re at a party last month and talking about my new, weird, .22 rifle. I started to bring up a thing in the Big Beautiful Bill that was on-topic and the only thing I find decent in it. “NO. We’re not talking politics.” “I’m NOT. I’m talking about one thing I think is cool and will help gun owners.” Jesus. Now we gotta dance on eggshells.

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TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Do they not truly understand how under and misinformed most Americans are?

Um, that’s exactly why we are pissed off at them. It’s easier than ever to be informed yet people act like it’s harder, somehow. Pretty fucking enraging.

In my experience, no one but trumpers refuse to talk politics. And it’s because they want to remain actively ignorant. Can’t have anyone revealing the giant holes in their fucked worldview. You might turn them trans, after all.

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- natebluehooves@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  i’m on the spectrum and can’t handle political conversations if the other person is being confrontational. this doesn’t/shouldn’t make me a right winger, but would make you assume as much about me.
  
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  - TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    I was talking about in real life, and with people I know well enough to talk about anything remotely deep. Further, I didn’t say I would be confrontational in all cases.
    
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Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Yeah, the total distraction of community and third-places is I think the #1 cause of the division of political discourse, but second is that people refuse to engage with other human beings on the topic. They watch TV or browse online, and they get one extremely biased view of the world. They don’t share it with other people where they could get other points of view.

It used to be people would get the paper and talk about it with each other, but that’s taboo now. You take it to an online community who all agree with you. There’s a reason why the infamous Thanksgiving family gathering caused strife. It’s because people were actually having discussions and disagreements. Disagreement is healthy, but people seem allergic to it now.

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- Feathercrown@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Disagreement is only healthy if both people are approaching it with the desire to further their understanding
  
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  - Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Honestly, I disagree still. That’s the ideal, but even just seeing that there are other opinions held by people you care about is good. If you live in an echo chamber where everyone agrees with you then you think you must be right on everything.
    
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    Feathercrown@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Disagreement with unreasonable people does not change your opinions, it hardens them in the worst way. Also I don’t care about the people making unreasonabke arguments
    
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Scubus@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

under and misinformed most Americans are

Which is weird, because we are all here. It’s almost like it’s not that hard to find the truth, you just have to be actually invested in finding out what the truth is.

Is malicious ignorance malicious?

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