Comment on Framework supporting far-right racists?

• Luci@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  No we use Lemmy and make fun of the Tankies as revenge

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• Jason2357@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Certainly a tough question. Use Lemmy, okay, but would you send financial contributions to said Tankie? I wouldn’t, and I would judge someone that did. I don’t think anyone can be expected to evaluate the moral virtues of the developer for every technology they use. That’s a supply chain nightmare. But, given the small number of people we directly sponsor, maybe then it’s appropriate to have some standards?

  As a non-US citizen, I actually consider /any/ American company that has not moved to be complicit in fascism. At the same time, I havn’t completely stopped patronizing American companies, so I’m not living up to my own standard. I suspect everyone is a little hypocritical.

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  • loutr@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It’s literally impossible to use the internet (or even computers?) without patronizing American companies, at least indirectly.

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    • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yeah, or just playing games. Maybe if you only buy European made games from GOG exclusively?

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  • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It’s certainly not feasible for every company to leave America, but I wouldn’t argue with a boycott of American goods and services on general - and I’m saying this as an American citizen who’s not exactly thrilled about this mess, either.

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  • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    As a non-US citizen, I actually consider /any/ American company that has not moved to be complicit in fascism.

    This is an absolutely insane position to take.

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    • 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      This is an absolutely insanerealistic position to take.

      There, FTFY.

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• priapus@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Using Lemmy isn’t giving that tankie money.

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  • Auth@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It is is you support lemmy’s development which for a foss platform its expected users do

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    • priapus@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      But not required. If I do not morally support the developer I can instead choose to financially support individual instances, or other projects like Piefed or mbin.

      My point here is that comparing this situation to using Lemmy is a bad comparison. Supporting Framework is pretty much exclusively via financial support, the same is not true for Lemmy.

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      • Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Doesn’t seem clear cut at all after reading the whole thread. You support one thing who’s creator has questionable views but not the other. The main difference seems to be that you like one and not the other.

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  • amorpheus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Using lemmy increases its popularity which in turn leads to more donations or other benefits.

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    • priapus@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Thats a valid point, but I still feel its a less direct form of support, which was my point. I dont feel that it is the same as directly financially supporting a project you morally disagree with.

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• aquovie@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  It’s a significant factor for sure. However, this year Reddit has accelerated its enshittification since the API schism and is far too risky to continue use anyway. The only viable alternative to Lemmy that I see is Mastodon and I never really got into the Twitter format.

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• Slotos@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  A naive answer:

  Replace “Lemmy” with a “Nazi manufactured gun”.

  A less naive answer:

  Consider various meanings “use” takes in your question and decide accordingly.

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• OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  If the far right would stop using Lemmy that would be fantastic news. (inb4 hurr durr echo chamber!!!11!)

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• balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Tankies, afaik, are just delusional. Do they support murder of non-whites?

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  • BombOmOm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Tankies wildly support the destruction of the Ukrainians as a people and culture. One of the definitions of genocide. Are you going to stop using every software written by a tankie?

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    • balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Can you point me to that? All over seen are posts on power tripping where people get banned because they say things like “Russia started it”. I’ve not seen anything to the extent you’re describing and would be interested in seeing it.

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      • BombOmOm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        the destruction of the Ukrainians as a people and culture

        This is a huge part of Putin’s current war; a war tankies widely support. You need sources for these things?

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• doben@lemmy.wtf ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Not the same thing. Equating the far left and the far right is nonsensical, as horseshoe theory isn’t a real thing. Giving room for such thought only strengthens extreme right positions and is exclusively used to either distract from or downplay far right commentary or elevate liberal/centrist thought as the only acceptable path. It’s interestingly never used by people from the far left themselves.

  Your’s either an ignorant take or one with an agenda, which is it?

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• anzo@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Not the same but sure. Go ahead. There’s piefed.social too!

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