It hurts to see posts saying “Framework is not political”… Like damn it is, what do you think the mission of framework is?
“Technology is apolitical” that’s entirely false. A load of decisions about tech are made politically, or at least with a lawyer behind you telling what is and what isn’t legal (these laws that were decided… By politics).
I think tech communities will have a major split in the coming years.
On one side you have the “apolitical devs” who don’t understand they are making political decisions every damn day. They claim to be centrists but it’s all a facade for neo liberalism.
On the other side, you have people that understand the reality we live in, that understand every decision they take is gonna affect the human that is using their software. That we are responsible for what happens into the world and that allowing fascists to spread their ideas will end badly.
Staying neutral is giving your ok to fascism and racism. Staying silent is how these ideas and movements take place and is a political choice.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 day ago
So should we all stop using Lemmy because it was made by a Tankie?
umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 hours ago
no, because “tankies” are not equivalent to nazis.
Luci@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
No we use Lemmy and make fun of the Tankies as revenge
Jason2357@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Certainly a tough question. Use Lemmy, okay, but would you send financial contributions to said Tankie? I wouldn’t, and I would judge someone that did. I don’t think anyone can be expected to evaluate the moral virtues of the developer for every technology they use. That’s a supply chain nightmare. But, given the small number of people we directly sponsor, maybe then it’s appropriate to have some standards?
As a non-US citizen, I actually consider /any/ American company that has not moved to be complicit in fascism. At the same time, I havn’t completely stopped patronizing American companies, so I’m not living up to my own standard. I suspect everyone is a little hypocritical.
loutr@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
It’s literally impossible to use the internet (or even computers?) without patronizing American companies, at least indirectly.
SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s certainly not feasible for every company to leave America, but I wouldn’t argue with a boycott of American goods and services on general - and I’m saying this as an American citizen who’s not exactly thrilled about this mess, either.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 16 hours ago
This is an absolutely insane position to take.
0x0@lemmy.zip 9 hours ago
There, FTFY.
priapus@piefed.social 1 day ago
Using Lemmy isn’t giving that tankie money.
amorpheus@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
Using lemmy increases its popularity which in turn leads to more donations or other benefits.
priapus@piefed.social 52 minutes ago
Thats a valid point, but I still feel its a less direct form of support, which was my point. I dont feel that it is the same as directly financially supporting a project you morally disagree with.
Auth@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It is is you support lemmy’s development which for a foss platform its expected users do
priapus@piefed.social 1 day ago
But not required. If I do not morally support the developer I can instead choose to financially support individual instances, or other projects like Piefed or mbin.
My point here is that comparing this situation to using Lemmy is a bad comparison. Supporting Framework is pretty much exclusively via financial support, the same is not true for Lemmy.
OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
If the far right would stop using Lemmy that would be fantastic news. (inb4 hurr durr echo chamber!!!11!)
Slotos@feddit.nl 11 hours ago
A naive answer:
Replace “Lemmy” with a “Nazi manufactured gun”.
A less naive answer:
Consider various meanings “use” takes in your question and decide accordingly.
doben@lemmy.wtf 13 hours ago
Not the same thing. Equating the far left and the far right is nonsensical, as horseshoe theory isn’t a real thing. Giving room for such thought only strengthens extreme right positions and is exclusively used to either distract from or downplay far right commentary or elevate liberal/centrist thought as the only acceptable path. It’s interestingly never used by people from the far left themselves.
Your’s either an ignorant take or one with an agenda, which is it?
aquovie@lemmy.cafe 1 day ago
It’s a significant factor for sure. However, this year Reddit has accelerated its enshittification since the API schism and is far too risky to continue use anyway. The only viable alternative to Lemmy that I see is Mastodon and I never really got into the Twitter format.
balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 12 hours ago
Tankies, afaik, are just delusional. Do they support murder of non-whites?
BombOmOm@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Tankies wildly support the destruction of the Ukrainians as a people and culture. One of the definitions of genocide. Are you going to stop using every software written by a tankie?
balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 8 hours ago
Can you point me to that? All over seen are posts on power tripping where people get banned because they say things like “Russia started it”. I’ve not seen anything to the extent you’re describing and would be interested in seeing it.