Google can go fuck itself.
Google would much rather go fuck you.
Comment on Google Confirms Non-ADB APK Installs Will Require Developer Registration
BroBot9000@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Google can go fuck itself.
Hopefully this will put some jet fuel into the Linux phone development.
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Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 month ago
they need thier AI to profit somehow, mining all your data to offeset the cost of those data centers.
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Yeah, I’ll switch to absolutely anything that allows open installation of third party apps.
Prathas@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
But for such major FOSS development, we usually have to throw money at them in advance, which is the problem.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
i wonder if it’s possible for fdroid or another app to make a linux/windows/osx app which basically uses an adb connection to automatically upload and install applications
railwhale@lemmy.nz 1 month ago
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
I’m checking out Graphene OS next week and pretty pumped about it. This Google ratfucking has been just the push I need to get off Android.
And obviously I haven’t stopped telling people around me haha
ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Most F-Droid users are NOT custom ROMs.
This means that as long as F-Droid does not get their own developer key - it will become useless. F-Droid is privacy focused - both dev and user, and they oppose requiring devs to essentially give up their privacy and sign the APK with their own dev key.
Now, if F-Droid is dead, GrapheneOS becomes useless. Who would want to develop apps for the 0.0001% of the population (i.e custom ROM users)
ChillPill@lemmy.world 1 month ago
This.
I am the person you are talking about. I’ve looked into graphene before and I do host some of my own services at home. I also work full time and I don’t want to spend all of my free time managing things. I use F-Droid, but I am on stock android on my pixel.
I appreciate the privacy and FOSS nature of F-Droid, but I use things like Android auto Google maps for work, I use banking apps on my phone as well. I know technically micro G and blah blah blah, but like I said: work full time.
null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 1 month ago
Just FYI, absolutely everything you mentioned works absolutely fine OOTB on GrapheneOS with no tinkering.
other8026@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
GrapheneOS will be fine without F-Droid.
ChilledPeppers@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Graphene is bult on top of android AOSP, which is owned by google… And of course they are fucking it over.
Check calyxos.org s recent blog posts, it is basically dying (and graphene is the same)
tate@lemmy.sdf.org 1 month ago
The pause in Calyx updates has nothing to do with Google’s fuckery, and they are not “dying.” They lost a major lead developer and decided they needed to restructure so no one would be so essential going forward.
ChilledPeppers@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Google is messing with AOSP pixel drivers: calyxos.org/news/2025/06/11/android-16-plans/ Thats what I was referring to, but yeah, that is also a thing.
undrwater@lemmy.world 1 month ago
What happened to the Open Handset Alliance?
Prathas@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
The what?
other8026@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
GrapheneOS isn’t dying. There’s an OEM partnership in the works and they’ll release devices with support for GrapheneOS in a year or two. GrapheneOS still provides updates and while the changes have made some things harder, the project is still going strong.
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
So… huh, so what’s the alternative then? I guess some other flavour of linux?
cley_faye@lemmy.world 1 month ago
For mobile phones that works as a daily driver? Gobbling up iOS. Or gobbling up what’s becoming of Android.
I really wish we had open phones that “just work”. I’d even go with slightly quirky but functional. Unfortunately, that requires strong cooperation between hardware maker and software developers; and it will require a lot of work. But that’s not the main issue. The direction we’re headed toward is “everything need an official app”, and those will mostly only work on “official” phones made by big manufacturers.
Even today, making some bank apps work on non vanilla Android is not always straightforward, and it’s still relatively open and easy to do. The move by Google is going to tighten this even more, and I have no doubt, if they pull through, that this will go in the requirements for the “play protect” validation BS. Meaning if you want that bank app, or whatever state digital ID app (meh) to work, you’ll need a “real” Android or an iOS device. And those apps are becoming more and more mandatory (I can’t log-in to my bank’s online website without their app and proprietary 2FA…).
A niche, open-source OS, Linux or modified AOSP or whatever, will have a hard time filling that gap as things keep moving. Which is really sad.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 1 month ago
You are of course aware that Graphene OS is affected just like any other version of Android?
tal@olio.cafe 1 month ago
I don’t see why it would be.
The constraint to require a valid signing isn’t something imposed by the license on the Android code. If you want to distribute a version of Android that doesn’t check for a registered signature, that should work fine.
I mean, the Graphene guys could impose that constraint. But they don’t have to do so.
I think that there’s a larger issue of practicality, though. Stuff like F-Droid works in part because you don’t need to install an alternative firmware on your phone — it’s not hard to install an alternate app store with the stock firmware. If suddenly using a package from a developer that isn’t registered with Google requires installing an alternate firmware, that’s going to severely limit the potential userbase for that package.
SMillerNL@lemmy.world 1 month ago
But if Graphene chooses not to do this, they diverge from the Android project. Which will take more time to maintain the project which will ultimately lead to more developers burning out and dropping out of the project.
It doesn’t need to be affected, but most open source projects don’t have the resources to keep going against big companies when most of their users aren’t contributing.
Arcka@midwest.social 1 month ago
I don’t think most developers who are putting their Open-Source apps on F-Droid have any minimum user threshold.
freeman@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Straight from the horse’s mouth. The rest of the post is a good reminder that GrapheneOS are morons.
But why would you lie about this?
grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
What?? I was not. I thought it was compatible, or like a fork idk… Guess I’ve got some reading to do.
other8026@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
GrapheneOS won’t be affected. The developer verification thing will be handled by another app and won’t be part of the OS. That app won’t have permission to block app installs or anything like that.
Mihies@programming.dev 1 month ago
Get off Android to … Android 🤪