No way they will do that. The value for microsoft these days is in harvesting their victims info and forcing them in to their walled garden.
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NateNate60@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They should make a Windows version called Windows 10P which is the same as Windows 10 but only the bare-bones necessities and no extra crap or required online services, and sell it for $59.99 (seeing that Windows is already de facto freeware). That’s probably an order of magnitude than what they make from intrusive advertising anyway to a single user over the lifespan of a computer.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 3 weeks ago
Walled garden? Windows? Do you even understand what a “walled garden” is?
MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They have been trying to force a microsoft accounts on everyone. I know what a walled garden and when Microsoft looks at apples they are jealous. Remember S mode? The shitbox machines microsoft pushed out that could only use their app store. That is the end goal for them. They just can’t sell it.
My current problem is keeping copilot and recall off of our public computers. People are using them and want them clear of spyware and intrusive monitoring. You can not really get rid of any of the microsoft software since they now cache it on the computer. Anytime someone new logs in it puts 365 and copilot on their profile. If you delete it from the cache its back the next update cycle. They have begun putting notepad and basic programs in the cache. So you can’t just kill it by making the cache path inaccessible. They are gearing up to close off all holes and force their app store onto everyone. They are working toward a walled garden where everyone has a microsoft account.
So maybe you don’t know what a walled garden is? You don’t understand that they have everything in place to lock out any third party software. They have recall, a huge security risk to train up their AI’s. You can’t believe anything they say about it. I know this because I’ve been around since the dos floppies had the IBM logo on them.
They have a unmanageable cache of software downloading without consent that uses their app store and if you kill it with a gpo you start having problems with basic functions. They killed wsus because it could be used to lock out their garbage. Despite operating in a domain environment I still see messages on accounts urging people to link a microsoft account.
So please tell me about what I know or don’t know.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 3 weeks ago
You don’t know that a walled garden requires them to lock you in to only install from their store, while windows lets you install anything you want however you want. While S mode exists, it’s never going to be the only mode because people need legacy win32 programs and all sorts of custom programs. Microsoft know that removing that ability will destroy Windows, which is why they haven’t.
Copilot has options to not collect data etc. copilot and recall are completely optional - you don’t have to use them. They’re not “spyware”.
I’ve been around since floppy disks too. You should know better than what you just wrote if you have been around this long.
jaxxed@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It would be of lower value to them without the data-gathering and the AI injection.
The data makes them money. The AI helps th justify their investment, but also gives them data to ad to their models.
morphballganon@mtgzone.com 3 weeks ago
Computers that are too new for Windows 7 come with Windows 10 preinstalled on them though. Who would buy an extra copy? You can debloat Windows 10 with a debloater tool
NateNate60@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
People who build their own computers, AKA the group most likely to complain about this
SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 3 weeks ago
How about a Win 7 Remaster? Since there's been a lot of them recently.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This already exists, and it doesn’t cost $60. What you want is the Windows 10 IoT LTSC Edition.
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PattyMcB@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Why do you keep saying that? Lol
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t know, but I find myself mentioning it often enough I feel like somebody ought to be paying me for it.
Psythik@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I use this on my DJ laptop. It’s nice because it doesn’t constantly bother you with bullshit, and is extremely stable.
Anyone still stuck on 10 who isn’t ready for Linux just yet should give LTSC a try. You’ll probably like it. It’s not going away anytime soon, either, because it is used in mission critical things like ATMs and cash registers that need to just work without being bothered with constant updates and reboots nor being bombarded with ads.