Comment on Unity temporarily closes offices amid death threats following contentious pricing changes
avater@lemmy.world 1 year ago
okay the pricing changes were stupid as fuck and should be discussed and criticised, but death threats are on a completely other level and not accetable. So calm the fuck down whoever is posting them…
Death threats are not OK, but this can destroys years of work for people, and it can threaten their livelihood. I’m guessing this has pushed some people into a sense of desperation. And these threats are acts of desperation, not threats that have a huge chance of being carried out.
John Riccitiello needs to be fired, if he isn’t Unity deserves bankruptcy for this move.
I’d be willing to bet it wasn’t developers sending death threats but “gamers.”
Why would they do that? They are not directly impacted by this. Developers losing years of work have much more reason to be super angry.
Ever been in a game forum where the players pretty much worship the developers as if they were gods? It’s way too common. Those people can get crazy protective when they make it part of their identity.
Depending how it’s implemented, gamers are absolutely impacted by it.
Some of the chatter is that even already-released games would be subject to this change, meaning a lot of devs might pull their backlog to avoid going broke on a game they put out years ago and is now free (or heavily reduced). Or games that have always been free, now the dev has to choose if they want to charge for a historically free game or pull it completely.
This is dev hostile, but it’s also consumer hostile.
They’re already Indie devs that are talking about delisting their games in order to avoid paying Unity fees they can’t afford.
This contract changes criminal, especially since it punishes the developer for no fault of its own. Sometimes I have to reinstall a game multiple times in order to figure out why it suddenly doesn’t work. I’m not the only one, that’s going to rack up fast.
And if you think review bombing is bad now? I imagine people buying the game not to leave a negative review, but you run a script that continuously reinstalls and uninstall the game.
They could bankrupt any developer they wanted to.
The same way people who aren’t directly affected by people being queer threaten to bomb places that host drag events.
Some people are just assholes.
See my other comments, it was neither. It was a single employee at their company.
Oh I’m willing to bet that Disney and Nintendo are getting their most expensive lawyers. Keep in mind, there are a lot of Marvel and Star Wars games out there, the mouse doesn’t like to share his cheese.
There aren’t a lot of Unity Disney games out their, I would struggle to name any. And there definitely aren’t any Nintendo ones.
Actually some of the newer Pokemon games are in Unity, and Disney has a lot of Marvel phone games in Unity
Unity is actually quite a popular engine for a lot of games both 3D and 2D and on multiple different platforms. It’s very popular among indie developers, though there are actually quite a few games from Big publishers that are released under unity as well.
it’s just edgy teens saying that they’re gonna go murder them, it’s not really going to happen but they have to take safety precautions
You have to take those seriously unfortunately.
still stupid and those people should end up in jail for some time.
Yeah, these people would need to be real for the jail haha
People making false crime deff should go to jail
Not even, it was a single employee (probably for reasons not even related to this change) and CEO used that as an excuse to close for the day and probably to make people feel pity for him and therefore more likely to give him a pass for these awful decisions.
You got a lot of faith in bad actor's claims...
Which is why he probably used it as an excuse to close the office, when the only known death threat to occur was from one of his employees.
I don’t know who that employee is and I don’t really care point is he’s using that basically to get pity from other people and distract from the bad things that his company is doing right now.
stevestevesteve@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I’m not one of the maniacs making threats of any kind, but honestly it really seems like death threats are the only thing that gets any attention anymore, so I can understand why it’s done…
Is “eat the rich” not a death threat in its own right?
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It is, and here’s the thing: All of society, laws, and legal recourses ultimately just boil down to “might makes right, but with extra steps.” We all love to act like this isn’t the case in a civilized society, but it is. That might usually rests with the police, the military, some governmental organization, or some megacorporation. Violence both literal and metaphorical is inflicted on the common person continually by those at the top. Who are the police after all? Just guys with guns. Who are judges and politicians? Just guys with access to the police. Who are megacorporations? Just guys with access to judges and politicians, and so on down the line. So when someone says they have the law on their side, and you don’t, what they’re really implying is that they can call the guys with guns, who if you don’t do what you say (no matter how ridiculous) they can literally kill you. And we treat this as normal and proper and reasonable, because we’re stupid.
These motherfuckers want to act like their violence or threat of violence is justified, and that’s a one way street.
Well, it ain’t. Nobody’s invulnerable.
Maybe it’s “just” video games. (Or “just” a cell phone app, or “just” a predatory subscription, or “just” an apartment with exorbitant rent, or whatever.) But big corporations are fucking with people’s livelihoods, here. There’s a reason we colloquially call such a thing “a living.” These are assholes taking food off of someone’s table, just for greed, just because they can, because they think they’ve above reproach. Because the whole teetering facade is lopsided. It doesn’t matter who the fuck they are at that point.
Korkki@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah, this is basically why I’m not buying these arguments against a struggle of any kind, just because methods of it are illegal.
Illegality =/= your cause or methods are wrong
agitatedpotato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 year ago
Call me whatever you want but Im happy the people who make these bad decisions from their insulated lot in life have to face at least some kind of consequences now, because the law is explicitly set up so that they typically never have to. Sucks that it comes to this but its behavior analysis 101, if you dont introduce consequences for undesirable behaviors, you’d be an idiot to expect change.
I don’t love that it’s probably caught up a lot of people who have nothing or little to do with it though, but they need consequences or nothing will change, and beggars cant be choosers.
TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah, it’s not like voicing disagreement and concerns amicably is listened to. It’s not like these executives negotiate with the users before making decisions that can ruin their livelihoods. As the avenues for civilized protest close, as people are left powerless towards the decisions of the wealthy, what else can they be expected to do?
It might seem much when it comes to games, but it’s also a matter of worker’s rights. Sometimes it seems like people today are a bit too passive and overly concerned with civility as their rights are undermined. Comes to mind the other news about the Australian CEO saying that he thinks more people should be unemployed and feel pain to be reminded who they work for. What is the appropriate response to that?
Steeve@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Well here I thought it was a metaphor, but if you’re down for literally eating the rich I guess us steves gotta stick together
stevestevesteve@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Looks like meat’s back on the menu, boys!
PeckerBrown@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s the idea. Here’s hoping they get it.
zaph@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Maybe it is but I always took it as “let’s take their money and redistribute the wealth.”
TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Frankly that doesn’t sound honest. Especially when picture of guillotines are sent by the same crowd. Even more considering that wealthy people are not going to volunteer their wealth through reasonable debate.
theneverfox@pawb.social 1 year ago
It comes from a poem. It’s very literal
mypuzzleaddiction@geddit.social 1 year ago
What poem if you don’t mind me asking?
snek@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Put the bite on the son of a bitch
sadreality@kbin.social 1 year ago
That's a warning tbh
MarigoldPuppyFlavors@lemmy.world 1 year ago
There is no meaningful difference between a threat and a warning. I’ve never understood why we see that retort so often when someone asks “is that a threat?!”. It’s the same damn thing.
sadreality@kbin.social 1 year ago
Threat in criminal sense requires that subject of the threat is identifiable....
Who is the rich in that "threat" above?