Comment on Kick faces possible $49 M fine after French streamer Jean Pormanove dies on air

Womble@piefed.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

• idntknow@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It is insane how it is even possible to live stream the torture of someone for months without any law enforcement getting involved.

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  • TheMcG@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They kinda did. The dudes were taken in as part of an ongoing investigation but were then released.

    ctvnews.ca/…/outcry-over-french-streamers-death-o…

    The investigation, opened in December, is looking into “deliberate violence against vulnerable persons” and “spreading recordings of images related to offences involving deliberate violations of physical integrity,” Martinelli’s statement said. It did not specify why Pormanove could be considered vulnerable.

    The statement said two co-streamers allegedly involved in the case were briefly taken into custody in January but were released pending further investigation.

    In parallel, the Nice prosecutor said, investigators interviewed Pormanove and one of his co-streamers who both appeared to be victims of violence and humiliation. They “strongly denied being victims of violence, stating that the events were staged in order to `generate a buzz’ and make money.”

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  • PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s all over the place on Facebook and Twitter though. There’s dog fighting, cock fighting, monkey abuse showing up on my Facebook home feed every now and then. This shouldn’t be a surprise really.

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    • GlenRambo@jlai.lu ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Thats just like, your algorithm man. -Labowskie

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      • PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’d love to know why an algorithm shows me this stuff as I don’t look any of it up. It’s quite traumatic to see. It’s the reason I don’t use these social media apps anymore. They’re all suggested posts and it’s an assault.

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  • WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s similar to fear factor—you can authorize quite a lot of things in a contract.

    The medical examiner has said that they don’t think his death was caused directly by the treatment during the stream.

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  • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    As long as you give a platform to the right wing, laws never apply to you.

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• jagermo@feddit.org ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  OK, but - could he not leave? Or say “i do not want to”? I don’t get it

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  • iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Nice victim blaming.

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    • jagermo@feddit.org ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No, no, not at all, i just do not unterstand it.

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      • Kellenved@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        A person with a intellectual disability will often be easier for abusers to manipulate and may not value their own well-being over the abusers approval

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  • mrdown@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    He may have been very emotionally broken that he can’t think rationally . Everybody has completly different tolerability levels. The teo guys who tortured him could still have say no too so they are responsible

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  • WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    He could.

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• ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  By how it reads, it kind of looks like more of a Jack-ass situation if voluntary abuse. There was some mention of him getting shot with paint balls. Also, the autopsy report said he had no trauma.

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  • cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Physical trauma maybe

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    • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Well sure, it could have been something he drank, or maybe he wanted to kill himself and took something on purpose. We’ll probably end up finding out more at some point.

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• frongt@lemmy.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Was it real or simulated? I haven’t seen any article make a definitive statement.

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  • Rothe@piefed.social ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    “Salut maman, Comment tu vas ? Coincé pour un moment avec son jeu de mort, avait-il déclaré. Ça va trop loin. J’ai l’impression d’être séquestré avec leur concept de merde. J’en ai marre, je veux me barrer, l’autre il veut pas, il me séquestre”. ("Hi Mom, how are you doing? Stuck for a moment with his death game, he said. It's going to be Too far. I feel like I'm sequestered with their concept of Shirt. I'm sick of it, I want to get out, the other one he wants Don't, he's sequestering me.")

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    • Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Just a nitpick, “jeu de mort” would never be translated as “death game”. In this context “de mort” would be an intensifier like “fucking” or “damned”.

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  • _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Uh, what’s does that matter? Is it ok to stream shit like that if it’s simulated?

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    • Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Should we not be able to watch Reservoir Dogs because there’s simulated torture in it?

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      • _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I like that. That's a good strawman. You compared a Kick stream focused on and containing only torture that literally killed a person to an artistic form of expression, a movie that was screened at Cannes and won many awards and is ranked second on the list of the Sundance Film Festival's Top 10 films of All Time.

        Obviously, I don't think you're a big enough idiot to have meant that seriously, it was clearly satirical.

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• SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  If that is the case then I’d like to see how aware they were of what was happening. I’d push for criminal charges against management in that case.

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  • oozynozh@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Kick CEO was a top 5 donor to the channel in question. Not only did they know, they actively encouraged it.

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• Steve@startrek.website ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The fuck

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