It still supports usb2 data rates, reportedly.
I’m ok with that, but if you have to move lots of data that’s a bummer.
Comment on Apple Announces iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus With USB-C Port, Dynamic Island, Frosted Glass Design
yhvr@lemm.ee 9 months ago
USB-C worldwide? That surprises me, I thought it’d just be the EU. I wonder what the catch will be 🤔
vzq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
Untitled_Pribor@kbin.social 9 months ago
You get usb 3 speeds on iPhone 15 pro. Still it’s ridiculous that you don’t get usb 3 on the base model
TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 9 months ago
Why would Apple go through the effort to offer you new features if it can just deny standard features to older/cheaper models so you pony up for a new phone?
The most innovative thing Apple is no longer the iPad/iPhone, by a long shot. Maybe their VR set, but it’s too early to tell.
lustrum@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Putting usb c, usb3 speeds 120hz isn’t innovative though. £200 android phones have all of these…
kratoz29@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I’m a bit out of the loop about USB C, but to me the ridiculous thing is that we have different standards with USB C at all, I guess it is because it improved over time???
CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 9 months ago
Now if only the cost of the device reflected it’s severely outdated hardware.
ripcord@kbin.social 9 months ago
Like the CPU?
CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 9 months ago
The CPU seems pretty decent, and quite overkill actually for a majority of users. Decent CPU, low RAM, and low data transfer speeds, but I guess Apple has to pay to license the latter two so of course they want to cut corners there. You don’t get to several trillion in valuation as a company otherwise.
jonne@infosec.pub 9 months ago
I don’t think too many people use the USB port on their phone for data transfer, other than flashing phones and debugging stuff.
Amcro@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I guess most people didn’t watch apple event. Pro models have new A17 cpu with usb 3 controller inside, while regular iPhone 15 has last years Pro model A16 cpu (Apple does that with every new generation) which didn’t have usb 3 controller since lightning is still usb 2. iPads have support for usb 3 because they have separate usb 3 controller (not inside cpu because more space) so claiming that iPads have it for years is true but for different reason. So logically it would make sense that iPhone 16 base models will have A17 cpu with usb 3 controller.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It’s cheaper to manufacture one device for the whole world. Moreover, states like California are probably going to also force manufacturers to use USB C. And more than 1 in 10 Americans lives in CA.
Aux@lemmy.world 9 months ago
While it might be cheaper, it’s rarely possible. Different countries have different frequencies and other stuff, so you still need to make different SKUs for different markets.
bamboo@lemm.ee 9 months ago
That used to be the case, but most phones now use radios that can support necessary frequencies and protocols globally. It’s also helped that the network side has also been more standardized compared to the 3g days.
Aux@lemmy.world 9 months ago
5G in Europe and in the US is completely different still.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 9 months ago
True. It basically means the connector component will be universal. Which will lower the manufacturing cost of it.
That said, it also means that the 1st party and third party peripheral market will be universal. It would be a nightmare if companies like Anker and Belkin had to make two of every damn peripheral.
June@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I just don’t understand this confusion. There really isn’t been a question of whether or not they were moving to USB-C for at least 6 months. The only question was whether it would be thunder bolt or not, and it isn’t. The narrative was always that they’d keep lightning for 10 years and then move to something new, Schiller even called it “a modern connector for the next decade” when it was announced, and at the time it was better than anything else on the market.
Now USB-C is the standard and superior, and it’s cheaper to bring the iPhone in line with that standard than to keep lightning or develop a new port/connector. As soon as the iPads went USB-C it was a foregone conclusion that the iPhone would follow suit, and anyone who was paying attention should have known it would happen this year, 10 years after lightning was introduced as a 10 year plan.
yhvr@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I don’t keep a super close eye on Apple’s recent products. I don’t really care enough to be in the know about what they might do next, I just hear about what comes out as it comes out and move on with my life. I also wasn’t aware that there was a 10 year plan because I was too young to care when it was announced. Sorry for the confusion :(
June@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Then I can’t help but ask why you would hold, let alone share, an opinion when you’re so openly uninformed? You say you don’t care, but you cared enough to make a disparaging comment for… reasons?
To be honest, whenever I see someone make a comment like you did I assume that your explanation here, ignorance, is the reason. Props to you for acknowledging that.
yhvr@lemm.ee 9 months ago
My views on Apple are based on what I’ve heard about them from the perspective of the right to repair movement and people like Louis Rossmann. Because I’ve heard about them doing questionable things in the past, my expectation is that they would have similar ulterior motives in the present. I thought that my comment would be voicing a common opinion, and at the time it had not been expressed yet. I apologize for not doing my research before leaving a comment
krayj@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
They must have done a cost/benefit analysis and came to the obvious conclusion that having to build multiple variants would be more costly than the profit they’d have earned by continuing to gouge all the non-EU consumers on proprietary cables and junk.
The world owes the EU a debt of gratitude for forcing apple compliance on this one.
alvvayson@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Next step: EU forces RCS compatibility
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I hope not. RCS still has issues. Example, it still requires you to have a phone number. iMessage can be used with an email address.
The Apple insider podcast gents did a nice break down of this a few months ago. iMessage is a lot more than just proprietary RCS.
cousinofjah@twit.social 9 months ago
I'd be happy with just a functional bridge between iMessage and RCS
LinuxSBC@lemm.ee 9 months ago
It still has issues, but it’s much better than SMS, which is currently the only option for messaging between Android and iOS.
Graphine@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Let’s be honest, who the fuck doesn’t have a phone number in 2023? My 9 year old cousin has an iPhone SE.
bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
One can dream, but recent news is a setback towards this goal: bgr.com/…/eu-ruling-says-apple-doesnt-need-to-add…
Asudox@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Probably because iMessage will be forced to add interoperability using a protocol like Signal, Matrix or XMPP.
jennraeross@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Alas, sorting software is much cheaper to implement than differing hardware, so the cost benefit analysis would work out differently in that case I expect…
Graphine@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Well we’re already getting removable batteries which is exciting as fuck. That one will require even more of a major redesign that it will 100% come to the US.
All hail the EU for saving tech.
Asudox@lemmy.world 9 months ago
US people are going to complain about that probay alot for a few years.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I two ports would also hurt the accessory market. American phones would likely miss out on a lot of toys.
evatronic@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Oh, don’t worry, Apple will still gate the port and only allow “approved” devices to transfer data.
LifeInOregon@lemmy.world 9 months ago
No. They won’t. The iPad has a USB C port and has for years. They support USB mass storage just fine, as well as video and audio adapters. The files app (which is the same on both iOS and iPadOS) already read USB storage devices using a lightning to USB adapter. And both have supported USB mics over their respective ports.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Looks like there is no MFI bullshit on this.
kautau@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Yeah they definitely made empty threats until they just succumbed. Their iPads are USB-C, their laptops are packed with USB-C ports. It’s obvious that, as one of the wealthiest companies in the world it’s not a problem to switch their hardware