Comment on Jimmy Wales Says Wikipedia Could Use AI. Editors Call It the 'Antithesis of Wikipedia'

carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Devmapall@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Oh gross

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  • Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Why?

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    • Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Fandom (previously Wikia) is an extremely shitty service with low-quality wikis mostly consisting of content copied from independent wikis and a terrible layout that only exists to amplify their overwhelming advertising.

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      • Tortellinius@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        While this is true, the majority of the wikis are not at all low quality. Some are the only ones existing for a topic. The wikis are community-based, after all.

        But its easy to vandalize and is highly profit-driven. The fandom wikis are filled with ads that absolutely destroy navigation. Infamous is the video ad that scrolls you up automatically in the middle of reading once it finishes. You have to pause it to read the article with no interruption.

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      • GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        my one weird trick for using fandom.com is to disable javascript for that domain.

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    • lime@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      they captured the “niche wiki” market as wikia, then rebranded and started serving shittons of ads. the vim wiki is unusable these days because it runs like ass and looks like a gamer rgb nightmare

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      • JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        There’s an addon for that, Indie Wiki Buddy.
        It tries to redirect you to non fandom/fextralife wikis if they exist, and if not, it proxies fandom wikis through BreezeWiki which just displays the content.

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• hr_@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I mean, the Wikipedia page does say it was sold in 2018. Not sure how it was before but it’s not surprising that it enshittified by now.

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  • OboTheHobo@ttrpg.network ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I guess in his defense it wasn’t too bad before 2018, as far as I can remember. Most of the enshittification of fandom I can remember has happened since.

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• LiveLM@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Obligatory plug for BreezeWiki. Makes that shit actually usable.

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• interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Oh yeah that website’s pretty great It has really in depth wiki about games like fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Caesar's_Legion

  So I guess you mean that Wales guy is pretty great then

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  • JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Oh, you mean the fallout.wiki/wiki/Caesar's_Legion ?

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    • umbraroze@slrpnk.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yup, Fallout Wiki has a pretty crazy history. I don’t remember if they were originally a Fandom wiki, but at some point they definitely went “well, we don’t want to go with Fandom, we’ll go with Curse wiki host instead.” Then Fandom bought Curse wikis and put all of them under Fandom banner anyway.

      The independent Fallout Wiki is basically where the actual community is right now, the Fandom wiki is just there to confuse passers-by with their high search engine rank. Fandom has the policy that the community can fork a wiki and go elsewhere, but they will not close down the Fandom wiki, so good luck with your search rankings.

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      • Soggy@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Many game communities have opted for the “unbridled vandalism” strategy to push people away from fandom. Just replace all the articles with plausible lies.

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    • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The “fandom” one is much more complete ?
      I mean, they’re both pretty great,
      From the search engine if I wanted to know about in-game faction,
      I’d just pick which ever appeared first.
      and it’d be fine either way

      So why would “Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone”
      think they can just point at it and imagine any random people would even know
      what she “who that guy is” means just because he’s associated with that wiki ?

      And that my innocuous comment
      would triggers the nerds with such an anonymously negative response ?

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  • jsomae@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The user content on fandom is generally pretty good, at least for the wikis I frequent. It’s everything else about the site which is awful – the pop-ups, the completely irrelevant auto-playing videos, how it’s constantly trying to shove other fandom wikis into your attention.

    I’m sure the site is improved with userscripts and such, and I am already using adblock, but it’s pretty unforgivable IMO.

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