For me, Minecraft bedrock (for kids) but looks like anything MS tainted will start (or maybe already does) require windows.
Looks like I have to decide what to do soon because they’re still on W10.
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Why does anyone use windows?
Psaldorn@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Pika@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
it will be a slight downgrade, but they do have a Minecraft bedrock wrapper program that uses the Android version of Minecraft, so technically Pocket Edition, and that’s probably the easiest currently at getting that version of Minecraft to run on Linux.
twinnie@feddit.uk 23 hours ago
I say this as a Linux user, Windows is still considerably easier to use and it certainly looks a lot slicker.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 hours ago
and it certainly looks a lot slicker.
As someone who is still required to use Windows on my work laptop, hard disagree.
twinnie@feddit.uk 17 hours ago
Im genuinely curious as to what themes and DE you’re using that looks better. In Windows everything is slick and polished, stuff slides and bounces around, the colours are consistent and work together, it’s all pretty elegant. I’m using KDE right now and all that I get is the start menu thing changes shade when I hover the mouse over it. I also use Gnome and XFCE, Gnome is pretty good and XFCE is obviously really basic.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 hours ago
I use KDE. Have you messed with “edit mode” on the desktop yet (just right click on the desktop and hit “edit mode”). There’s also tons of themes and other visual customizations on their site (that you can either access manually on a browser, or access through KDE itself when in the theme settings).
I despise the way Windows looks and feels.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
You just answered my question. I was going to ask you earlier and then forgot to hit send. Because I thought plasma actually looked really slick, so I was going to recommend it. Especially with how customizable it is.
The biggest annoyance that was to get used to was the change in overall size of the menu bars, but once you’ve been using Linux for a week or two, it actually hurts your eyes going back onto Windows again.
selokichtli@lemmy.ml 23 hours ago
It’s stupid, honestly. I was trying to play Fallout New Vegas for the fifth time, and starting the game I realized the main radio station of the game, which repeats forever, was mute. For my weird taste, this was a dealbreaker, as IDK how they do it, but their playlists have this quality to immerse me in the game no matter how many times I listen to them. Tried every fix I could find to sort this problem with no success. So, back to Windows 10, and it works. At this point of time, I don’t play New Vegas, but there are so many GB to download, partitions to extend, etc. I guess in December I will try to go back to Linux.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 hours ago
I have one extremely important game that is a half life 1 mod and will NOT run on Linux.
Plus, pretty much all I do on my main desktop is play games.
Waldelfe@feddit.org 21 hours ago
I still need to use it for university. We often need to use very specific programs for homework and I don’t know if I can always find an alternative on linux. Even if, I’d have to go through the hastle of converting to the requested file formats. And it’s not guaranteed that I will always find a solution for every course I’ll take. Unfortunately education still expects you to work with Windows and programs that only work on Windows.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
Of course, your metrics may vary because every person’s situation is different, but I went through my associates and my bachelor’s CIS degree with very minor issues issues., Many colleges will state that it requires windows for the course, but then you’re able to use something like LibreOffice just fine. Like technically, the only course that I ever had to actually use windows for was my Microsoft Office course and that’s self-explanatory of why I needed Windows for that lol
Waldelfe@feddit.org 8 hours ago
Office isn’t the problem, I use Libre Office even on Windows. The problem is very specific software for some courses. Like we needed to work with SQL for one course and they wanted us to use a specific program. It was a group project, too, and I didn’t want to be the one who messes up our database because something didn’t work right with whatever Linux substitute there is.
TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
A lot of software still requires Windows.
Games are a big one for sure, but there is a lot of productivity and creative software that does not run on Linux.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 hours ago
Unless we’re talking about the handful of kernel-level anti-cheat games where the devs have refused to allow Linux support through Proton, nearly every game you own will work. Most of them without any tinkering whatsoever.
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
This is a myth and has been for several years. The only games that do not work with linux are ones that have intentionally artificially disallowed the use of linux using kernel level anticheat (rootkit). Many of these games worked on linux until adding no-linux policies to their anticheat.
There is no technical incompatibility, only artificial policy choices that game companies have made
nocturne@slrpnk.net 23 hours ago
I have been trying to get the sims to work on my wife’s Linux laptop. I can either get it to run at 3-4fps, or I can get it to run without the ability to save anything.
I have Steam deck and with every game I have tried on it so far working, I thought it would be the same with a laptop. Boy was I wrong.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 hours ago
Not sure which Sims you’re referring to, but it looks like it should work: www.protondb.com/search?q=the+Sims+
It looks like The Sims 4 is the only one that might need some tinkering. Stupid EA installers…
Though the only entry for the first Sims game that appears in the results is the “Legacy Collection,” so if you’re referring to like the original CD-ROM or something, it might be different.
chickenf622@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
What distro of Linux did you install on the laptop? I’ve had no luck getting wine to work on Fedora, but my desktop is running Bazzite which is based on the steam deck OS and I’m games run great (sometimes with tweaking required).
glog78@digitalcourage.social 23 hours ago
@theunknownmuncher @TheFeatureCreature
Ok let's give you some more software which still don't work with linux
- recordbox
- serato
- traktor
- engine dj
While recordbox 6 still worked in a kvm environment ... recordbox 7 crashes even in this environment.
You can to a certain degree avoid maybe serato or traktor and use "engine dj in a kvm" but recordbox for preparing usb sticks is a must for nearly every dj.
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Again, further proving my point. Rekordbox was arbitrarily designed to detect if it is being run with WINE to prevent use with linux. There is no technical incompatibility, only a policy choice, and you can get rekordbox to run with linux if you jump through hoops to defeat the WINE detection.
TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 23 hours ago
I never gave a reason why a game would/wouldn’t run on Linux. I just said that games are a reason some people continue to use Windows.
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
It’s a very small subset of games and most are live service microtransaction garbage not worth playing anyway. Many are spyware and viruses disguised as games, eg Valorant
Pika@sh.itjust.works 23 hours ago
I just wanted to chime in that there’s far more reasons that your software doesn’t work on Linux than just the developer saying no.
Basically, if your game or software has to interface with anything at the driver level, such as a keyboard or a headset configuration software, or anything that needs to access complete system access such as kernel level access or being able to see processes outside of the wine environment. It’s going to be incompatible. This is by design for system security and is unlikely to change on official releases any time soon.
Additionally, if the game requires any type of integration into basically anything Microsoft, so be it the Microsoft account services, the authentication token services, multiplayer services, applications on the MS store etc, it’s going to be a no go as they have yet to make a decent translation layer for those systems. Being said with the push for demand of Game Pass on PC, there are people working on those projects, but I haven’t personally seen anything that had decent progress.
I have to hard disagree with the statement that it’s a myth. Yes, many games will work with minor tinkering. However, We are still a long way from having something that is just a click play and it works style system and it’s not usually from developer choices (outside of choosing not to make a Linux distributable)
Being said, it has gone a long way since I started using Linux back with Mint Maya. ProtonDB is an excellent resource to find known workarounds when it breaks, But you definitely should not go into any Linux system expecting it to “just work™”
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Tl;dr completely irrelevant since 2022