Comment on Duckstation(one of the most popular PS1 Emulators) dev plans on eventually dropping Linux support due to Linux users, especially Arch Linux users.

Vitaly@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Yeah im sure someone will fork and it will be named chickensation or whatever. Then we will move on.

  Hope the developer feels better. Its easy to get burnt out on passion projects. If I were to guess, this is what is happening. They are going to say some pretty insane things in the next couple of weeks and then get a handle on their life.

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  • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yeah im sure someone will fork and it will be named chickensation or whatever. Then we will move on.

    github.com/libretro/swanstation

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    • mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Ha! Yeah ok. And looks like its maintained.

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      • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Ha! Yeah ok. And looks like its maintained.

        It is but it’s also just a libretro plugin without any stand-alone GUI. That said, with the great strides projects like ES-DE brought in terms of usability atop of standard components make stand-alone GUIs more and more unnecessary.

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• nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Would have to go back to before the license change in September 2024. The current license basically forbids forks, from my reading.

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  • Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You can’t fork it or redistribute it… but you can distribute patches for users to apply, and those are easy to add in a PKGBUILD. That’s how a lot of game/ROM patches are distributed and they appear to be legal.

    It’s an emulator, lets be real, the majority of the users couldn’t give a shit about license terms anyway.

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    • PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It’s also a PS1 emulator. A game that’s been emulated for over 20 years now._

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    • jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Getting flashbacks to installing qmail back in the day…

      I have a heard time imagining it to be worth it with other psx emulators readily available without weird hoops to go through.

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    • nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yeah… But then it sucks for anyone not running Arch (btw) or derivative distros. I really don’t have a dog in this merge conflict but really would feel bad for any packager maintainers.

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      • Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        but really would feel bad for any packager maintainers.

        It’s already unpackageable because of the license anyway.

        The only “legit” way to get the emulator is their provided AppImage bundle, and nothing else. The author also has a rant about Flatpak being broken and unreliable and refusing to support that, so…

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      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        If it’s only available via appimage, as the reply to this comment states, then it will still run just fine on Arch.

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  • subignition@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You cannot forbid forking a public GitHub repository, per their terms of service

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    • nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Yes. The license doesn’t technically appear to forbid forking, just sharing the fork.

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  • mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    So how would that work? I know we say emulators are allowed...but Nintendo came knocking a while ago, Github removed the repos pretty quick. If he goes and applies their fork-less license in a court of law....that would have very nasty consequences for them.

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    • lime@feddit.nu ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      the big thing that caused nintendo to take action against the switch emulators was that the creators were taking money for it, and explicitly pirating games. like, they set up a patreon where you could pay for early access to builds specifically tailored to games that were not released yet.

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      • mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Theres a LOT of emulators that got caught in all that not just the ones that were taken down for legal reasons. Theres a reason most of the new emulators are not on Github/public git sites anymore.

        Im not saying your wrong, what I am saying is that the situation is a bit nuanced and if a PSX emulator wants to push their "rights" they might find they actually dont have any when push comes to shove.

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• BurgerBaron@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Please. Stenzek is smart but unhinged.

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  • nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Fortunately, it looks like that was done already with Swanstation, which also has many more contributors.

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    • BurgerBaron@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I hate TwinAphex's guts so I won't use Retroarch/Libretro.

      I got mednafen standalone for PS1.

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      • hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Is TwinAphex still involved in Libretro? Can’t seem to find evidence of them from the last few years.

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