Comment on I.R.S. Deploys Artificial Intelligence to Target Rich Partnerships

Gork@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The IRS never stopped going after middle and working class tax cheats. They stopped going after the very rich because their budget was cut to the bone and they couldn’t afford to fight a protracted lawsuit and possibly lose.

  The reason they’re going after them now is because funding the IRS, at least on paper, brings in more revenue. So, it was a way for the Senate to get the Inflation Reduction Act fully paid for without adding debt or changing tax rates. (Same with allowing Medicaid/Medicare negotiate prescription drug prices. There’s a lot of money in America’s couch cushions.)

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  • fubo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They stopped going after the very rich because their budget was cut to the bone and they couldn’t afford to fight a protracted lawsuit and possibly lose.

    They stopped going after the very rich because they were tactically underfunded by a corrupt administration that explicitly wanted them to stop going after the very rich. That administration then got voted out of office, so the rules are different now.

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    • Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You’re correct, but it didn’t happen under Trump. It was under Reagan I believe. It’s never been fixed.

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      • Noodle07@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        America has never been fixed since Reagan

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• there1snospoon@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Here’s the great thing: we don’t care, as long as the wealthy pay their share.

  This system is so broken it’s a wonder the guillotines haven’t made a comeback already.

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  • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The guillotines haven’t made a comeback because nobody can get enough PTO together at one time to build one in a single sitting. Also, medical insurance is tied to our jobs, and it can quickly get financially crippling if you don’t have that.

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  • theterrasque@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This system is so broken it’s a wonder the guillotines haven’t made a comeback already.

    No one can afford guillotines in this economy

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    • there1snospoon@ttrpg.network ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No one can afford guillotines in this economy

      Fuck it, we’ll do it the old fashioned way. Grabs a handsaw

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• ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I mean, they kind of already do that.

  All the taxes I manage to evade (buying/selling a couple hundred dollars worth of stuff from Kijiji/marketplace) wouldn’t really affect me.

  But scraping hedge funds and professional tax dodgers would put a ton of cash into public funds, so I’m all for it.

  Kind of hate that argument “if they can take millions from greedy billionaires, imagine how many millions they’ll take from you!” is a shit argument that defends serious tax evasion.

  First they came for the billionaires, and I did nothing, ‘cause fuck em’ that’s why.

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  • cerevant@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In Canada they definitely do - I was asked for verification on about half of my tax returns. One was a pretty big oops that I thought they might come down on me for.

    In the US, I think they are much more random with what they audit.

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• topinambour_rex@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  By curiosity how many members of the working class do you know do tax evasion, by example ?

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  • jrbaconcheese@yall.theatl.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Probably a good portion do it unintentionally, but the ROI would be really low: “hey Mr. Mechanic, you made a mistake and owe us $17”

    as opposed to “hey Mr. Hedge Fund Mgr, you made a ‘mistake’ and owe us $17,000”

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    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They keep making mistakes and telling me that I owe $17,000.

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  • Gork@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Personally? None, at least none that care to admit it.

    But when companies like Amazon or Apple can get away with not paying taxes, then that means that the rest of us have to pay to pick up the slack.

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  • blackbelt352@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The only thing that comes to my mind would be tipped service staff not reporting tips as income.

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  • DrPop@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Tax evasion, no. Fraud oh yeah most definitely. This year’s current tax scheme is claiming the fuel tax credit, previously it was self employment COVID relief credits. The IRS is going after them and don’t trust tax preparers who say they can get you a much bigger refund. They usually are committing fraud.

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  • solstice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You’d be surprised. Small business owners are notorious for running non-deductible personal expenses through their business for example when they really shouldn’t. Plus some super egregious stuff I can’t begin to get into here. It is trivially easy and the state/fed gov can’t begin to crack down for lack of resources. These are your tradesmen like plumbers and electricians, boutique shop owners, salons, food/catering, smaller self employed professionals like doctors, lawyers, therapists, dentists, etc. It’s sort of a grey area and there’s wiggle room for sure, and I try not to let my clients get away with all of it. But I do look the other way a lot and just plug my nose and sign it and push it through when I’m in a hurry, which is basically always. Some people are just maniacs though, it’s really staggering, idk how they sleep at night. Smaller numbers than a hedge fund manager making $50 mil, but it adds up real quick, and fraud is fraud IMO.

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• gregorum@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That’s how it’s always been.

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