Comment on YSK that apart from not having a car, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat

commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I wouldn’t call this detailing the problems. You’ve listed a few. How much of cattle feed is cottonseed? In the US only or worldwide? I feel like you’re spreading misinformation.

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  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    poore-nemecek is conducting scientific malpractice by combining LCA studies as they have. the problem with Netherlands, admittedly, is more of a feeling of misgiving, and I don’t know if there is any study that properly accounts for reclaimed agricultural water, or of that’s even a reasonable thing to do when your end product is a simple statistic like land use, water use, or ghge.

    I think the crest thing to do is probably look at inefficiencies in any specific operation and help them improve, but that doesn’t give simplistic answers like telling 8 billion people to eat more or less of something.

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    • LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      For someone who seems so righteous and careful about saying the right thing, I think it’s funny you end with “telling 8 billion people to eat more or less of something” when that’s an obvious exaggeration on your part. Global meat consumption is highly skewed. For example, apparently, the US consumes 21% of the world’s meat (world population review, which cites FAO, 2010) yet accounts for about 4% of the world population.

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I’m advocating for a method to actually improve outcomes, and, yes, lampooning the simplistic answers offered here. but if the answers are more complex, there is not any nuisance or further explanation offered here. the data gathering and analysis methods offered are flawed, and it doesn’t take a degree in statistics or environmental science to understand this.

        you’ve matched onto one glib comment I’ve made while closing over the real methodological missteps.

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• Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Oooo a “teh” in the wild—a rare site in the mobile internet age! (I’m not being mean, I’m just remarking the rarity!)

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• 4shtonButcher@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The ballpark numbers seem well in line with similar studies I have seen elsewhere. So while I don’t doubt there might be minor flaws in this particular source material, the point still stands.

  We shouldn’t nitpick too much about stuff that’s generally trying very hard to get facts right while the right or making up shit left, right and center and call fact-checking a limitation of their free speech.

  Suggestion: point out flaws but also confirm that it’s definitely not just made up and probably largely correct

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• Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Red meat like a staple of right wing people since a lot of them are cattle farmers. So a study like this, posted to Lemmy is just great.

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  • LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I think it’s more related to hypermasculinity and meat. Eg grilling steaks. The whole bacon craze with men. Those Burger King commercials with all the meat and the girls licking ranch. Hungry Man frozen dinners with the meat as the biggest and most important thing.The fact that they call their dicks their meat or sausage (does look like sausage so I get). The weightlifting bros and high protein diets that are usually meat. Keto and men and Joe Rogan. The Atkins diet being marketed to men. I was just doing a back and forth with a guy on Lemmy who insisted the only food you need to eat is meat because it has all the vitamins you need (it does not, or at least, muscle meat does not and he didn’t seem into eating organ meat like heart and liver).

    But yeah it’s also probably related to “Beef, it’s what’s for dinner” stuff too.

    I just think it’s the masculinity thing because a lot of rightwing men have to hide any bit of feminity they can, and most people are a mix of masculine and feminine traits normally so it causes them to overcompensate.

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  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    a study like this, posted to Lemmy is just

    circle jerking

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