Comment on Trump Team Has Full Meltdown Over CNN Story on ICE-Tracking App

• vala@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s 1000% possible to use android apps without involving Google in any way.

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  • SMillerNL@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Edited for further clarification. It’s not about Google, it’s about what Android needs to receive notifications: www.iceblock.app/android

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    • vala@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s really hard for me to understand how iOS is better in this sense. The only way to get this app is via the app store and the ONLY way to use the app store is be registering yourself with apple. Seems to me that you are tracked either way.

      IMHO the devs probably wrote this is Swift and just don’t have experience working with android. Whole thing/story is just off IMO.

      I’m really just sceptical about the whole thing being closed source really.

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• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  fdroid?

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• ThePantser@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There is side loading, they can just release it on GitHub.

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  • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s not how push notifications on android work.

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    • Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That doesn’t have anything to do with how you install the app.

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      • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It has to do with receiving notifications from the app in a privacy-preserving way. Unless the app is running with a server connection 24/7 (RIP battery life) you need to rely on the OS to deliver notifications.

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• Goretantath@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There are other stores besides the playstore…

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  • SirQuack@feddit.nl ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s not about the store, it’s about the notification.

    As mentioned in the Time article:

    the app is not available on Android because it “requires a device ID in order to send push notifications, which requires a user account and a password.”

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    • tfowinder@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Its totally possible to send notification without having user account, see firebase.

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    • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You don’t need a user account or password to receive a push notification.

      You just need to have the app installed and it can then be configured to receive push notifications.

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      • SMillerNL@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        And the developer needs a device ID for that. Which is their objection: www.iceblock.app/android

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    • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Good old firebase. Notifications are not entirely device local on android, or something lime that.

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    • brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ntfy.sh

      There are ways around that

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  • SMillerNL@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thanks, but I’m not the developer of the app so that’s not really relevant for me.

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    • Quill7513@slrpnk.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      i don’t think this other commenter was calling you out. i think they were just bringing up a point of discussion that’s relevant to the point you brought up

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