I keep having to remind people around me that phones are the primary computing device for an ever increasing percentage of the population.
Lemmy wants to rail on Windows 11 AND they talk shit about your average person not understanding filesystems.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Everyone talking about how it’s because of Windows 11 or their greed driving people away, etc. But they’re ignoring the big one:
People don’t need as many computers these days. You don’t have a lot of households with a laptop for every member of the family because smartphones and tablets have replaced the PC for many people for media consumption and basic tasks.
paraphrand@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Lemmy wants to rail on Windows 11 AND they talk shit about your average person not understanding filesystems.
At some point, it just becomes exhausting to hear people explain-o-brag about their ability to navigate the command-line, like typing “dir” into a cursor field makes them the hottest thing since Alan Turing.
Millennials will tell you they are tech geniuses, then throw up their hands when their dishwasher breaks or their check-oil light comes on.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 3 weeks ago
Exactly. My wife hasn’t used an actual computer more than a handful of times in the last several years. She does EVERYTHING on her smartphone.
I have never owned a laptop, because my desktop unit is where I do most of my business stuff, and when I’m away from that, my smartphone is good enough.
Of course, the most important thing isn’t that we account for two less computers than a few years ago, but the smartphones that we have replaced laptops with, run Android. So that’s actually a net loss of 4 MS products.
And after all these years, Windows products still make me frustrated and infuriated. You’d think they would have honed it to a perfect product by now, but every few years they completely reconfigure the UI, and make us have to navigate a whole new, buggy system.
SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yeah this happened in Japan way earlier. Japan got mobile internet much sooner than the rest of the world it was called i-mode. Which was launched in 1999. The home computer boom never happened there like it did in the West. Since everyone just uses their mobile phone to go in the internet and Japanese PCs were expensive. And doing work after hours at home wasn’t a thing since you do that at the office where your boss can see you putting in the work. The only PCs that sold reasonably well were VAIOs since those were relatively compact.
It’s also why computer literacy is very low in Japan, ask anyone who taught in Japan and they will tell you how most Japanese high school students don’t know how to use a computer. Like the problems we are seeing know in the West with computer literacy among students they had for decades already.
RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
Not just casual users, I work in software development and I don’t have a personal computer and haven’t bought one in over 8 years. Every company I worked for provided me with a laptop whether Windows or Mac. I have my smartphone and video game consoles for personal use.
trd@feddit.nu 3 weeks ago
Looks around my living room, 3 laptops, stationary, 1 nas and a server. 2 laptops are still running windows.
paraphrand@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You are an outlier.
howlingecko@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Same here. I was just thinking that I have way more running computers now than I did in years past. But none of mine are running Windows now.
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
I think you’re right on this. People aren’t moving away from MS because of their obnoxious behaviour. They’re moving to alternate form factors and dealing with Apple’s and Google’s obnoxious behaviour instead. People are willing to put with a metric ton of bullshit so they don’t have to actually do anything for themselves.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t think their obnoxious behavior is completely unrelated. After all, people aren’t choosing windows phones or tablets either.
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s just because Microsoft waited until Android and iOS were well-established before trying to make a smartphone OS. It could have been the best OS ever made, and it still would have been a failure because there wasn’t a market for a third OS. It was hard enough at the time to get apps developed for both iOS and Android - there wasn’t room for a third player.
JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
MS charged for Windows Lite, the others were free. And anyway they were building market share, but not fast enough for management, so they abandoned it mid-cycle.
blarghly@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Correct. Whenever you see a large chunk of the population making a change, first assume it is for mundane reasons like finances or convenience.
BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Not to mention google has fought to replace real PCs in grade school computer courses with chromebooks, which are glorified tablets. Recent gens simply aren’t as familiar with proper computers as phones and tablets.
jjlinux@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
And this is the absolute truth. I showed my brother today in haveibeenpawned how his main email (you guessed it, Gmail) is out there in over 150 leaks and hacks. Not 2 hours later he was buying 2 new nest thermostats to replace the ones he has at home because Google is phasing them out (yes, they still work, Google just chose to kill them).
I’m done trying to make people see the light. We’ll see what happens when it all blows up (see I didn’t say “if”).