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• timewarp@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I wouldn’t trust them to not randomly enable WiFi, but you can also use their modem but disable any built in WiFi on it & still use your own router. ISPs continue to try to bundle their modem & router, which gives them complete access to your home network. Some lucky people have found fiber providers that let them use their own SFP.

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• JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “cheap” is a relative term.

  Nobody should be buying a DOCSIS 3.0 modem these days. They are obsolete and for some reason still being sold.

  A decent DOCSIS 3.1 modem is at least $200. A Next Gen like S34 is at least $220.

  And then you have to get your own wifi.

  It pays for itself pretty quick (by not paying rental fees), but that doesn’t necessarily make it cheap.

  I absolutely prefer using my own equipment, and do…but it’s also worth mentioning that in many markets, Xfinity removed data caps if you have a rented modem.

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  • Squizzy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Rental? How much is rental?

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  • Vinstaal0@feddit.nl ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It looks like DOCSIS 3.0 and 3.1 are for coax which should be avoid anyway . VodafoneZiggo is already starting with DOCSIS 4.0.

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    • Croquette@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I still use coax because I buy internet from a reseller third party and this is what they have. I have 400/50 for 35$, which is a lot cheaper yhan the competitors. No reason for me to change.

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      • Vinstaal0@feddit.nl ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Like I responded in the other comment, I can get fibre with 4 times the download speed and 16 times the upload speed for the same amount of money. And that is pretty standard since it is apparently a way cheaper thing to offer for companies.

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    • SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Can confirm, I live out in the countryside with only coax available, and a measly 1Gbit down 150Mbit up and 9 - 11ms ping. No caps.

      Wait, that’s awesome and steady and reliable. Expensive sure but with heavy multiperson usage and no noticeable issues, I am wondering WTF you’re on about unless it’s some weird edge case?

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      • Vinstaal0@feddit.nl ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Coax is generally a terrible and more expensive option, lower speeds all around and a worse ping. Especially now with fibre being so standard you shouldn’t go for Coax if you have the choice.

        Currently I do not have the choice so I have to pay 40 euro a month for 100mbps down and 25mbps up, with fibre I get symetrical gigabit for 45 euro a month or 400mbps symetrical for 40 euro. That’s 16 times the upload speed for the same money. And the first party with their coax (VodafoneZiggo) sells their coax as a fiber-cable. Which is just misleading bullshit.

        Heck the 5G modem I had was unstable at times, but the download was 100-200mbs and I paid 25 euro a month for that.

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    • jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In my neighborhood you get a choice between coax or nothing.

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      • Vinstaal0@feddit.nl ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        5G modems are probably an opion.

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  • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If a DOCSIS 3.0 modem still can’t be saturated by the tier of internet someone is paying for, what advantage would 3.1 have?

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    • unphazed@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah I recently switched from cable to fiber (finally available), and prior I was using an old as fuck modem/router that capped at 500Mbps. My internet at fastest was 380. I rarely transfer files over the network, so figured why bother? (I did have Gen1 Google Mesh though to cover dead spots). I had a bit of a shopping splurge when I got fiber. Nothing crazy, just an upgraded mesh and a switch (Why the fuck does Frontier provide an ONT with 8 ethernet ports but only one is active?)

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    • kieron115@startrek.website ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If your provider has implemented it (Comcast is the only one i know of in north america) then Active Queue Management is a huge quality of life improvement that you won’t notice you were missing unless you already had a router that implements queue management. cablelabs.com/…/how-docsis-3-1-reduces-latency-wi…

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    • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Not buying another modem when the ISP quietly upgrades the CMTS and makes more speed available in your neighborhood.

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    • CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      At least in my case, my DOC IS 3.0 modem was having connectivity issues. My neighbor in another apartment had similar issues: dropped connections, slower than expected speeds, etc. Switching to DOCSIS 3.0 modems solved the problem. I guess Comcast upgraded their hardware and it wasn’t compatible with my modem anymore

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  • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I used docsis 3.0 and it worked just fine. So why not?

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    • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Because docsis 3.0 standard is nearly 20 years old at this point and 3.1 is significantly faster. Docsis 3.1 is only 15, but 4 (which is still 8 years old) probably isn’t supported by your ISP yet. But the speed difference is quite noticeable. 3.0 will theoretically do 1gbps down, and 100-200 up, but 3.1 could do 10 down and 1gbps up. In the age of symmetrical fiber internet those upload speeds are dire. 3.1 realistically gets you a symmetrical gig connection.

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      • ayaya@lemdro.id ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I have a 3.1 modem but my ISP only has 3.0 speeds as far as I can tell. 1000/100 is their highest plan so the extra doesn’t really do anything.

        My modem is 32x8 and I can see in the UI that only 4 of the 8 upload channels are actually bonded to reach that 100, which is half of the 200 that 3.0 can theoretically do.

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      • Zorque@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ah, so 3.0 is fine if your internet still sucks. Got it.

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