If it’s so trivial to do why doesn’t everyone do it on their own?
If it’s any easy mod to replicate it seems like it won’t have much self life as a paid mod.
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kadu@lemmy.world 1 year ago
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million@lemmy.world 1 year ago
kadu@lemmy.world 1 year ago
[deleted]Kirkkh@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Then why the hubbub? If there are free dlss 3 mods why report on a paid one with such vengeance? If I was charging people a hundred grand to watch me shit it wouldn’t be on the front page.
Kirkkh@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Angry (poor) Redditors are out in force today I see.
million@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yeah holy shit, fuck this thread
Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
But DLSS is an Nvidia DLL, you’re not even licensed to redistribute it - and you’re not doing anything special, you’re hooking into the data the engine spews out for FSR.
If it’s not anything special, someone else could just “easily” reproduce it instead of having to pirate it?
Rehwyn@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They have, literally just a few hours slower than this guy charging people: www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/761
ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Can you link where it says you can’t redistribute DLSS? The Dev guide starts pretty clearly it’s free to use with Nvidia gpus.
kadu@lemmy.world 1 year ago
[deleted]ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world 1 year ago
They are not distributing components of the dll. They are creating a modification of a Bethesda game which has allowed modding at the discretion of Bethesda.
The Nvidia dll is being redistributed without modification for an Nvidia GPU as exactly described.
Do you think every single game publisher negotiated a deal or paid money to ensure DLSS in their game? Can you point out any documentation outside of the direct reference to the SDK license that I linked that is in direct opposition to what your are saying? Can you point to me any discussion what so ever about paying to implement DLSS?
beefcat@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The author wasn’t selling DLSS, they were selling a shim to make it work with Starfield. That does require original work.
kadu@lemmy.world 1 year ago
beefcat@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Knowing how to do the work is most of the value here. Yes, it’s easy for those of us with the knowhow, but most people do not have that.
Think of an artist who can whip up a cool drawing in about 10 minutes. It was “easy” in the moment, but only because they spent years learning and practicing the skills to make it so. You aren’t entitled to that artists labor for free just because it only took them a few minutes.
Sit your average gamer down with a copy of Starfield and
nvngx_dlss.dlland they won’t be able to do anything useful with it.It’s great that most modders and some artists like to share their work for free with the rest of the world, but the rest of us aren’t entitled to any of it.
stigmata@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The difference is that you only pay for an artist’s picture once.
Nahvi@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I still might choose to take a picture of my buddy’s cool drawing that he bought rather than buying my own copy. Though I agree that I am certainly not entitled to a free print at the author’s expense.
Conversely, if I bought that drawing myself and it came with reflective glass glued to the front, so that pictures turned out blurry, I might be a little annoyed. Now I can’t roll it up and put it with my other drawings without special accommodations. Also, I bought it and if I want to take a picture of it or wipe my ass with it then that is my choice. Making the life of your customers more difficult so you can make a little extra money is going to lose you some of those customers.
Not that I begrudge someone for making good money, but that dude said he is making $40k a month from his Patreon for DLSS3 mods. Does he really feel like he isn’t get paid what his time was worth, or is he just getting greedy in a community that is usually more aligned with FOSS concepts?
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Things don’t need to be novel and amazing to be marketable. And if it’s that trivial, rather than pirating it people would just rewrite it. The fact that they’re stealing it means it has value.
Asafum@feddit.nl 1 year ago
The fact that they’re stealing it means it’s priced above its perceived value though.
Katana314@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Honestly, 90% of programming work now is “I got X library to work inside of Y new system in Z engine”. It makes sense too - it’s exceedingly rare that it makes sense to reinvent someone else’s wheel - and at times, not insignificant to implement the right hooks.
Asifall@lemmy.world 1 year ago
And starfield itself is useless without a huge stack of technology that someone else made. That’s just how software works.
unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 1 year ago
How dare they ask for money when Starfield is clearly just a Windows mod
RHSJack@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Hang on. You are telling me that schooling, parenting, and growing up in a community contributed to MY knowledge. And that, magically, will influence my art? Nonsense! I am a conduit for God.
Bodongs@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Do you copy and paste comments from reddit? I read this exact comment last night I am SURE of it
beefcat@lemmy.world 1 year ago
You still hang around on Reddit?
Bodongs@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yes. Lemmy still sucks and everybody who isn’t in niche communities knows it. Lemmy is the same article spammed across 100 communities cross posted again across 100 instances, memes for teenagers, and Star Trek memes apparently.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
That’s not a “no”
woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 year ago
So NVidia’s DLLs for DLSS are not included? (Honest question, I don’t even own the game.)
bassomitron@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No, they are not included. The mod I use to enable it linked to a site that archives all the different DLSS DLL file versions. Honestly though, I couldn’t tell a difference between FSR2 and DLSS 3.5 in graphical fidelity nor performance (I have a 5950x and RX 3090).
In case anyone’s curious about the performance with those specs: I average around 60fps at 1440p with everything maxed out when I’m in the major city, New Atlantis (haven’t gotten to another huge hub yet). In smaller areas/indoors/in space, I get around 100fps.
gila@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Are you sure the mod you’re using is injecting DLSS3? Using the DLSS 3.5 DLL is not related to that. If it’s only injecting DLSS2, it would be entirely expected to see negligible performance difference vs. FSR2.
AdmiralShat@programming.dev 1 year ago
You can get the DLL very easily and legally, NVidia doesn’t lock their DLLs.
woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 year ago
But I asked if the mod bundles it.
beefcat@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I don’t know in this particular case, but the mods I have seen require you to provide the Nvidia DLL yourself.