Comment on Carmakers are failing the privacy test. Owners have little to no control of the data they hand over

SSUPII@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  And apparently neither are consumers

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  • BruceTwarzen@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don't care about my data. I have nothing to hide. Haha they can have my data if they want.

    Literally everyone i know

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    • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You’re missing the larger point. You dont have to have anything to hide for it to be an issue. They can now blackmail you for things they know about you, track you, use targeted advertising, listen in on your conversations. Hell, if there was a need to make you look guilty of a crime, with all the data on you, it wouldn’t be that difficult to do.

      Doesn’t even get into the issues of fighting back against oppressive government, which isnmuch more difficult to do if they’re constantly spying on you.

      But, you’re right, nothing to hide, so it’s not a big deal I guess.

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      • teruma@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I think the post you replied to was sarcasm.

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      • Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        • Blackmail: This is a case where “I have nothing to hide” actually makes a big difference. Unless you are particularly well off and have significant skeletons, you just aren’t important enough to even try to blackmail. And if you ARE important enough to blackmail? Slim jim and a recorder in the pocket on the back of your seat.
        • Track you: You also have a phone. And more and more traffic lights and street corners have cameras on them
        • Targeted advertising: This is already happening in every facet of life. Also, truth be told, if I have to see ads I would prefer they be for things I care about
        • Listen in on your conversations: See “Blackmail”.
        • Frame you for a crime: Again, do you matter enough to target?
        • Fighting back against the government: Again, the vast majority of global north countries are becoming, or have already become, surveillance states. Not having a camera in your car doesn’t matter much if they have a camera on every street you ever drive down

        I am a strong advocate for privacy, when it matters. Because most people base their knowledge off of vague recollections of Sandy Bullock’s movie or an episode of Futurama. And while it is good to be wary, it is also good to actually understand what you can and can’t do. Focus your energy on the things that matter. And, more importantly, understand that the moment you “fight back against the government” you need to change just about every aspect of your life. Like, there is a reason good journalists learn to have separate devices that are never powered on anywhere near their personal devices.

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    • Wahots@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Then they act all butthurt when they get debt collectors harassing them on social media, or repos using location data to repo a car with missed payments, lol. All the J6 people are a great example of people fucking around with tech and committing crimes, then finding out belatedly :)

      There’s lots of good, non-crime reasons why you might wanna protect your personal data, so you don’t get your identity stolen, your wife thrown in jail for an accidental pregnancy, or being any flavor of queer in a regressive state.

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  • gnutrino@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In the case of cars there isn’t really an alternative. The study the article cites looked at a bunch of different manufacturers and found the all sucked for privacy.

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  • iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Vote with ya moolahhh

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• nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Same. I’ve been slowly adding more and more smart devices to my Home Assistant instance and seeing it all interact is super neat. That said, the search for products that work 100% local and don’t depend on the cloud is a total pain, outside of some products using the Zigbee standard and such.

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  • GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Zigbee and z-wave is the way to go, yeah. They work completely local and disconnected from the internet.

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