The replacement is matrix.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 10 months ago
I admittedly haven’t looked very hard for an alternative. But I fully expect to be forced to move elsewhere in the next year or two due to their increasingly belligerent chasing of profits.
auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Yikes, hope matrix really improves soon.
auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
Matrix 2.0 is class they just need to get spaces support
Libra@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
increasingly belligerent chasing of profits.
The word you’re looking for is enshittification.
Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 months ago
I thought it was called capitalism.
BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 10 months ago
They are the same thing.
JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 10 months ago
enshittification is a part of capitalism, but capitalism also has other things going on
Libra@lemmy.ml 10 months ago
Enshittificaiton is a uniquely capitalist thing, so…
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 months ago
What genuinely confuses me is who they’re finding to buy this shit to begin with.
I’ve seen so many of these failed “Join our club to score points to get tokens to buy virtual dongles that you can use to get into our more-elite clubs with better points and color tokens” schemes over the last ten years. It’s like everyone wants to be Chuck-E-Cheese, nevermind that the company went bankrupt five years ago.
drislands@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It is a bit baffling. I think it’s more ethical than the alternative though: pay gating useful functionality. Offering paid pallete swaps doesn’t make a lot of sense to me, someone who would never pay for that, but it does at least mean I can just ignore it. If they were to, say, restrict voice calls to a paid subscription, suddenly I’m in a position where either I’m paying for the service or ditching it entirely.
kautau@lemmy.world 10 months ago
They already do pay-gate useful functionality, this is just an alternative revenue stream
MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Oh it’s undoubtedly going to fail, but it should milk enough money out of their users to keep them going while their investors cash out
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Microsoft had a check ready for $10B.
I can’t imagine how a new flavor of Buttcoin could compete with that.
shneancy@lemmy.world 10 months ago
ah yes, seeing deepweb market-esque exit scams on the surface web is a sign of a healthy system
ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Keep an eye on Revolt.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Is it open-source? Sounds like it does exactly what I want. Maybe I’ll create a shadow group there and make the permanent jump once discord becomes untenable.
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 10 months ago
It is open source. But from what I can tell the accounts are still hosted centrally, and it isnt federated in any way, which isn’t great.
Still a step up from Discord though.
NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 10 months ago
I believe there was talk of opening it up to the fediverse but not sure where they landed on it
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 10 months ago
Oh well. Matrix it is, then.
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 10 months ago
Same. I just hope my friend group and by some extension the gaming community chooses something that won’t fall into the same pitfal of closed source for profit organizations.
I hope the transition is towards matrix or something like it.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 months ago
something that won’t fall into the same pitfal
What exists that cannot be sold to a high enough bidder? Even Lemmy isn’t magically immune. If the admins of .world got handed checks for a couple million dollars in exchange for the rights to operate the servers, what would discourage them from cashing out?
The internet is fundamentally a privatized system that exists to generate profit for investors. There is no true public domain. Its all just turf up for sale, some of which hasn’t gone to a notable bidder yet. If you do manage to improve a patch of digital real estate to the point where someone will pay you enormous sums to divest, you’d be a fool not to take the money.
Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 10 months ago
Even Lemmy isn’t magically immune. If the admins of .world got handed checks for a couple million dollars in exchange for the rights to operate the servers, what would discourage them from cashing out?
Nothing, but it would be far less disastrous than say some billionaire buying the town square of the internet.
Because it’s federated, everyone can just leave. There is nothing stopping people from ditching .world and moving on.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Because it’s federated, everyone can just leave.
Because of the networking effect, people don’t leave. People have stubbornly clung to Twitter and Facebook and YouTube in the face of enshittification.
This notion that everyone’s just going to pick up and leave Lemmy hasn’t even worked on Reddit, the OG thing everyone was supposed to pick up and leave after it went to shit.
SufferingSteve@feddit.nu 10 months ago
If I care about my account, it would suck. Can’t migrate unless server allows me to
wjrii@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Not immune, but let’s say resistant. Due to federation, they couldn’t lock down existing federated content; due to open source they couldn’t lock down the user experience; and due to those two, nobody’s going to offer them a check for a couple million dollars.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 10 months ago
Hopefully, I would love a discord alternative that does the same thing but is open sourced similar to the fediverse.
PattyMcB@lemmy.world 10 months ago
You read my mind
chunes@lemmy.world 10 months ago
It feels like literally the entire open source and games communities are on discord. Will they move too? I care about that even more than my DMs.
gian@lemmy.grys.it 10 months ago
They were on IRC before and on a number of other chats systems before that.
They will move as soon as something better will come out, for various definitions of better