Comment on Why are people hyped about RSS regaining relevance?

just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• 1bluepixel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  For me, the value of RSS is bypassing the fucking algorithm.

  Just give me the raw feed from a website I like. No suggestions, no “someone else liked this.” Just the raw firehose of content that I asked for.

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  • TrustingZebra@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I mean algorithms have their flaws but there is a reason they became popular.

    Subscribe to a dozen RSS feeds and suddenly you have more content then you can read with no easy way to sort through the chuff. Also no easy way to discover content beyond your feeds.

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    • HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The reason why RSS didn’t become popular was because content creators didn’t know how to monetize them while still having to pay for hosting fees.

      Social media built walled gardens that could drive traffic to certain content creators if it was in the social media company’s best interest. Content creators moved to social media since the carrot was too much to resist.

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    • average_internet_enjoyer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Wasn’t that how YouTube used to work tho? Still I think it’s better discovering new channels, but that makes it harder for the new users I suppose

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      • TrustingZebra@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Funny you need YouTube. I have been rediscovering the “Subscriptions” tab recently. It’s a chronological view (newest first) of all Channels I am subscribed to, but I actually haven’t used it for years.

        I’ve gotten used to the YouTube algorithm, going to the homepage and just finding whatever seemingly interesting videos YouTube suggests to me. However recently, YouTube made the strange decision to disable the homepage for people who disable Watch History. Now my YouTube homepage is entirely empty.

        Anyway, going to the subscription tab it’s just a massive collection of random channels I’ve subscribed to over the years. It’s too messy to keep my interest, and I’ve actually been using YouTube less.

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    • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The only algorithm I want is the classic “Sort by Magic.”

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      • TrustingZebra@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        What’s that?

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  • spacecadet@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is the reason why for me, I actually took it one step further and rebuilt a front end news site with Django and shared the link out with friends who are interested in the same topics, added a discussion feature. Essentially, I have a python script that runs and pulls RSS feed data. If the whole article isn’t included then it uses Asyncio, aiohttp, and Beautifulsoup to pull in the article. Dump all that to a Postgres instance then have Django run on top of it. It’s like deconstructing news to reconstruct it

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    • drunkencommando@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Would you mind sharing this? I would be very interested in running my own instance of this and modifying it to fit my needs!

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      • TrenchcoatFullofBats@belfry.rip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Newsblur also does something similar and is self-hostable.

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      • slander@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        also check out miniflux

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    • revv@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That sounds awesome! Any chance you’d be willing to share your code?

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  • nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You can also even use it to create your own “algorithm”.

    With Reddit I’ve always subscribed to each subreddit individually, sometimes adding filters like “/hot/?limit=10”, which only shows posts that reach the Top 10 posts in /hot. That way I wouldn’t miss any post in niche subs while I could scale the amount of posts I get shown from the bigger subs.

    You can do the same here on Lemmy, although I still haven’t felt the need to configure it, since staying on top of /new is still doable.

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    • TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Individual/custom feeds would be awesome here. If I remember correctly from github, they are coming.

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  • jettrscga@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There’s still an algorithm and “like” system in that scenario: clicks. The news providers generate more content based on what was clicked.

    Some sites are more objective in what they report on, but there’s still going to be biases in what you’re fed.

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    • misk@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Clickbait is obviously an issue with many media outlets but given that you curate your RSS feeds you can just dump them. Once reddit died I made plenty of changes to my media diet. It left me with way less sources but I’m certain all I lost was low quality reporting and other kinds of outrage bait.

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  • StenSaksTapir@feddit.dk ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I do kinda like the idea of some kind of curation, but I’d like the algorithm to be transparent to me, so that I can go in and see what’s been filtered out, for instance, and why.

    Some guy on Mastodon a while back was working on a service that’d give him a digest of daily posts he’d missed from his feed. I could see the value in something like that, as long as you control the algorithm yourself.

    I think I’m still stuck on the idea of a daily edition. A finite selection of post or articles and maybe a funny pages section too. Like a newspaper in the olden days.

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  • HellAwaits@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’ll give you a raw firehose of content.

    No homo.

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    • wahming@monyet.cc ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, all 3 TB worth of content

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    • artic@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yes homo make it really gay

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