Iâm so happy that my parents taught me to always use cast iron pans, or at least nonstick with a ceramic layer instead of PFAS
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SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone âš3â© âšweeksâ© ago
Which is wild because if you knew how to properly use oil/butter and a cast iron pan⊠they wonât stick to your pan.
We literally created a world of idiots that donât know how to do anything.
teije9@lemmy.blahaj.zone âš3â© âšweeksâ© ago
meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com âš3â© âšweeksâ© ago
Just to be fair though: ingesting Teflon residue from the pan isnât the problem, itâs the chemicals needed in the production process to get the Teflon onto the pan
ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com âš3â© âšweeksâ© ago
Cast iron is generally safe but not entirely without risk. Old pans are sometimes made with lead and some newer cheap pans from sketchy sources are made with cadmium and/or lead
Generally if you get like a lodge or whatever youâre fine though. Biggest risk there is that it leeches iron into your food, which is usually beneficial unless you have some uncommon health concerns
A stainless steel pan are also generally safe but have similar issues: low quality pans and excessively scratched pans can leech nickel and chromium. 304 and 316 stainless ($$$) are more resilient against this issue. Stainless takes a bit more technique than cast iron for stuff like eggs and fish but itâs not that tricky (preheat pan, add fat/oil when hot, basically). It is also far more responsive to changing temperature (rather than retaining it) and much lighter so itâs easier to use for sautĂ©ing and such. Cast iron is superior when heat retention is needed: stews, soups, curries, roasts, etc
Ceramic coated cookware is a mess. Some did use PFAS/PFOA and still does, some ceramics have lead and cadmium, and some coatings just suck. I got one pan to experiment with that was lead/cadmium/pfoa/pfas free but the nonstick properties dulled after 2-3 months of daily use. It was not scratched or chipped; I took care to not use metal implements or wash it with abrasives. I did use high heat at times though which potentially degraded it. It was like $50 too. Researching online after I see there are âgoodâ ones for $80, fuck spending that on a single pan.
Iâll stick with cast iron and stainless steel. Can use metal utensils, covers basically every scenario, and cheaper. To be clear, âwell sourcedâ doesnât mean expensive. A 10â lodge cast iron skillet is $20 online. A tramontina 12â 304 stainless frying pan is $35.
RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world âš3â© âšweeksâ© ago
Canât we just have AskCulinary back? Please? KenjiâŠ?
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works âš3â© âšweeksâ© ago
I recently switched to cast iron, and I have no fucking idea why I wasted so much time and money on nonstick over the last many years. They are better than nonstick, easier to maintain, and make good taste better as well.
Zoldyck@lemmy.world âš3â© âšweeksâ© ago
Itâs not the idiots fault for being uneducated and being lied to
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org âš3â© âšweeksâ© ago
Funny how some commenters immediately assume that you are excluding yourself from that.
Because what you say goes for so many things, it affects us all invariably. And it reaches very far into time. I mean who still knows how to make their own tools from sticks and stones.
But OP said that this is not what this video is about!
Teflon residue from the pan isnât the problem, itâs the chemicals needed in the production process to get the Teflon onto the pan, leaching out from the factories into the environment.
JudahBenHur@lemm.ee âš3â© âšweeksâ© ago
you are so much smarter than everyone else
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone âš3â© âšweeksâ© ago
Look itâs not my fault people didnât get an opportunity to learn these skills because they were instead sold cheap, poisonous bullshit. Why would anyone learn if they didnât to? Itâs not really the fault of individuals who donât know any better when society isnât going out itâs way to teach them such skills. Hell, I didnât learn this until I was in my early thirties, because my parents had used teflon all while I was growing up.
But, please, read it more as me thinking Iâm better than everyone else rather than someone who got lucky enough to learn these skills eventually.
AA5B@lemmy.world âš3â© âšweeksâ© ago
While I agree and have switched to cast iron and stainless steel, itâs not enough. No pfas were used in the manufacturing of my cookware, plus I expect to save money by never having to replace it. However the documentary starts showing how ubiquitous the chemicals are and for how many uses. While we all absolutely need better cookware choices, itâs only a drop in the bucket of so many consumer and industrial products.
Our part includes increased awareness and better choices for many things we come into contact with every day. However itâs critical to better regulate, to hold companies accountable for the damage theyâve done, bring them to justice for impact on public health and coverups, etc âŠ. And thatâs not just unlikely but really impossible
prex@aussie.zone âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Did you read the article? Have you tested your ground & drinking water? If you do drink water then you are at risk. Pans are not the problem, firefighting foams & industrial leaks are.
bilb@lemmy.ml âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
I only drink Brawndo, so Iâm good.
endeavor@sopuli.xyz âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Literally a minute of googling. Takes more to make up arguments why youd still use a pan that kills you and has built in planned obsolesce.
JudahBenHur@lemm.ee âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
hello friend, the pan doesnt kill you. there is no PFOA in the pan you buy and is used to cook the food you buy in a restaurant, which youâve done hundreds and hundreds of times. its the production of the material on the pan that produces the anti-life compounds.
we donât get cancer from using nonstick pans, we get cancer from the PFOA in the groundwater that was made during the production process.
it takes literally a minute of googling, but thank you for the condescending message, couldnât have lived without it
endeavor@sopuli.xyz âš2â© âšweeksâ© ago
Ingesting teflon particles is bad for you and all the studies assume you are not scraping your teflon pan when in reality the teflon coating DOES flake off over use and following the procedures manufacturers tell you to, thus you are ingesting teflon flakes wether you like it or not.