Comment on China turns on ‘minors mode’ to keep kids safe online
WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Parents can invoke minors mode with a single click and set usage time limits. Devices set to minors mode will even remind users to take breaks, and collect stats so parents can make sure their offspring are surfing the web in an age-appropriate and socialist fashion.
This sounds awesome. This isn’t the weird shit like some states in the US have for determining if you can log into porn, or South Koreas weird government-login-page-in-everything scheme, it’s part of the parent’s family plan for their kid they can turn on/off.
I realize there’s worrying undertones (that already exist on the Chinese internet regardless) but the actual delivered feature seems like the ideal for this sort of thing.
But who is collecting the stats?
Here are my issues with this:
There are internet filters you can buy already that the user controls. Why not just use that?
there are internet filters you can buy
Seems like that’s exactly what this is, it’s a mode that you turn on on the phone and it uses a government supplied list of vetted websites for the kid to visit.
Interestingly the way this feature set reads out is exactly the same way that Nintendo’s parental controls work.
I realize that this being the Chinese government, them keeping usage stats has connotations that go beyond the data itself… But in a country with a more liberal government I’d rather have them keep records of my kids’ internet usage than a private company. The idea being that you can pass protections around that data. (Not that that seems to be stopping the current US government so maybe that’s a pipe dream).
Ideal is, of course, completely on your own hardware (the device or your server at home), but between this and a system where Apple/Google/Nintendo does all this instead I’d prefer the government method.
government supplied list
Does the government know which sites users attempted to access? Or is it strictly a static list with everything handled on the device?
But in a country with a more liberal government I’d rather have them keep records of my kids’ internet usage than a private company.
I’d rather neither. Why does the supplier need usage stats? Just provide a list and keep it at that, with an option to request a site be allowed through (that obviously would go to the supplier).
But maybe that’s me in the US speaking. I don’t trust my government with that information, and I also don’t trust countries I visit to have that info either.
between this and a system where Apple/Google/Nintendo does all this instead I’d prefer the government method.
I don’t really have a preference since I reject both as unacceptable. I prefer my approach: no filters, and I only provide access to devices if I trust my kids to follow the rules, and if I catch them breaking the rules, they lose access to the device.
I suspect you don’t have kids? Most schools require a laptop (usually Chromebooks). What do you do then other than parental controls?
Looking up more information about this I found a much less sensationalized analysis on this from the UofC:
I could have sworn that a few months ago it was on the news that the government restricted all online stuff like video games, to only a few hours a week or something for minors?
I think that was the draft proposal for this.
They can’t log on after 8pm or something like that?
This isn’t the weird shit like some states in the US have for determining if you can log into porn
Age gating porn doesn’t sound very weird to me. Methods can be pretty shit though
so parents can make sure their offspring are surfing the web in an age-appropriate and socialist fashion
Imagine if the US did this lmao
US can’t even pass a federal data privacy law
xylogx@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Sounds like screentime.
sommerset@thelemmy.club 1 month ago
What’s a screentime?
xylogx@lemmy.world 1 month ago
support.apple.com/en-us/108806
WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Is that an app or what?