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• SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  “imperial core” isn’t a phrase we made up. It refers to World Systems Theory, a theory of international relations invented by a guy named Immanuel Wallerstein which argues that imperial “Core” countries (think the traditional “developed” or “first world” countries. Mainly the US and Europe) have a particular extractive, colonial relationship with “Periphery” countries (think poor, raw material exporting, rentier states like Kyrgyzstan or Nigeria).

  Then there are semi-periphery countries which are still tied into the imperial core in some way, but have enough sway economically and geopolitically to kind of stand on their own. They have a different kind of relationship to the imperial core, compared to the periphery (these would be the BRICS countries, largely).

  That’s a gross over simplification, but hopefully that answers your question.

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  • Gsus4@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wasn’t aware of this, thank you for taking the time to explain it :)

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    • SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No problem!

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    • Egon@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Thanks for engaging in gold faith!

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• dolphin@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s another term for ‘the West’ effectively, so the US and Western Europe.

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  • Sharkwellington@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I genuinely would like to understand what you guys at hexbear are about but every time I poke my head into that instance you guys are “dunking” every other instance with language nobody else understands. It’s very alienating.

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    • dolphin@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Lol that’s fair. We’ve developed a pretty insular culture over the past three years and I can see how it’s hard to decipher.

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      • yuri@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        you guys are also like, just huge dicks without provocation. like all the fucken time. 99% of what i see from hexbear users is either condescension or outright hostility.

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    • Doubledee@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Honestly your best bet is probably to do some reading first, unfortunately. A lot of Hexbear dialect is that way because it’s tied to concepts that come from books and thinkers we’re broadly familiar with.

      If you’re more into video stuff you could try this guy. I think he’s pretty approachable.

      Actually if you went into the megathreads and asked most people would probably give you suggestions too. We are fiesty but in my experience we also like to be helpful to people with questions.

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    • Venus@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      We’re literally just communists. Read any introductory text to communism and 99% of what we say will make sense in context.

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      • YeetPics@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        “Donald Trump is a liberal”

        Break this down.

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    • SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I genuinely would like to understand what you guys at hexbear are about

      Well, I’d be more than happy to have a good faith discussion with you. No dunking, I promise 🙏

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    • Egon@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      New tagline dropped @CARCOSA@hexbear.net

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    • epicspongee@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      To be clear in the dunking threads folks are not usually engaging in good faith with us. When I was on another server and replied with actual questions to stuff everyone was incredibly nice to me and explained stuff super well. Can agree though that folks can see dunking as alientating. I promise though if you can get past that it’s one of the friendliest communities I’ve found on the web.

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    • AOCapitulator@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If you ask good faith questions and give context for why “Hey, I’m a liberal and I don’t understand X could you explain what you mean?”

      You WILL get excellent engagement and people will give you very good answers

      its easy, and if you genuinely want to learn give it a shot

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• HornyOnMain@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The imperial core is the countries that have been most involved in the imperialist plunder of other nations, so that would be the US, Canada, UK, France, Belgium, Germany, etcetera

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  • YeetPics@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    China (see taiwan) Russia (see crimea/ukraine)

    Wow you just got dunked on.

    Seethe

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    • Egon@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Tibet was a theocratic slave state before being liberated.
      Neither the UN, the EUs member nations, the US or Taiwan thinks Taiwan is a country.

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    • SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Note that they said “Most involved” Russia, for instance, has always been the modern “Sick man of Europe” since the fall of the USSR. It’s imperial aspirations don’t extend as far. And it’s relationship to the historic Core of the US and Western Europe, is as a semi-peripheral nation trying to coalesce a regional sphere of influence with itself as the center of gravity. None of that makes it a Core country though.

      Maybe if the current world system collapses, and it filled that vacuum. But that hasn’t happened.

      Imperial Core refers to the World Systems Theory of International Relations, first put forward by Immanuel Wallerstien. I would suggest you read up on the topic before making half-baked responses like this.

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    • RuthlessCriticism@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is so adorable.

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    • GarbageShoot@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      redsails.org/friendly-feudalism/

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  • Zirconium@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Don’t forget China, Tibet?

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    • Venus@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Tibet was an oppressive theocratic slave society whose people China liberated.

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• NuPNuA@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The Imperial Core was clearly on Coruscant.

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• WhyEssEff@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  international-community-1international-community-2

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• aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Another user already explained world systems theory, but there’s also the school of global historical materialism, that analyses the relationship and structure of the imperial core/triad and the periphery/global south. Samir Amin was a leading figure in that, he also coined the term “Eurocentrism”. You can find quite a few recordings of his lectures for free on YouTube, or pirate his books (he’s dead now, so it’s not like he’d get the money anyways).

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