Comment on Coin-sized nuclear 3V battery with 50-year lifespan enters mass production

ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• GamingChairModel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  this battery can deliver 0.03mA of power

  0.03mA of current. That times the 3 volts = 0.1 mW of power.

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  • frezik@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Technology Connections, we need you to make another video.

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• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Should be plenty for watches and IOT devices.

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  • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Not really actually…

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    • cubism_pitta@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Cell != Battery

      Battery = MANY Cells

      I am not correcting you just hate the headline.

      If you made a battery with 666(667 if we round up) of these you could supply 2ma of power at 3v for 50 years!

      I don’t have sizes available so assuming 2032 sized batteries… If you stacked them that would be over 2meters tall.

      With further advancement these could be viable

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why not?

      A CR2032 has 235 mAh, which I believe Casio watches use, and their batteries last 5-7 years. So, if we divide that out, that’s something like 5-6 microamps (235 mAh / 5 years / 365 years / 24 hours * 1000 = 5.36… microamps). Converting this to watts @ 3v: 15-18 microwatts.

      I think that math is correct (this question reaches a similar conclusion), and it leaves some headroom as well.

      If you remove RF from the equation (Bluetooth, WiFi, etc), you can get some very low power draws. If all you’re doing is sampling temps or something, you could send an update periodically over serial or something and fit under 100microwatts or so. You could probably even do RF if you have a large enough cap and send once it charges.

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      • ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        CR2032s are used in many things that require significantly more power than that, and this cell is absolutely unfit for almost all other uses than barebones old school digital watches.

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  • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Google says a Casio watch needs .004mA so not quite enough.

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    • libra00@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      0.03 is 7.5x more than 0.004 tho?

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      • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You are right! I didn’t count the 0’s!

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    • dnick@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Did you typo or did he? .03 is significantly bigger than .004

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s definitely in the ballpark though. Surely they could for 25% power draw to support a 50 year battery.

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    • mesamunefire@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I wonder how much we really need for a clock (555 eq) to work?

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      • piecat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        www.ti.com/lit/gpn/LM555

        2mA minimum, and that’s just q current. It’s gonna be much higher when you’re actually using it for a clock.

        I’m sure the casio’s main power sink is the display. I bet the refresh rate could be reduced for better battery life.

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      • cubism_pitta@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        A lot more than that. 2ma

        Smaller packages may be more efficient.

        Analog circuits are weird though

        www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/ne555.pdf

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• reksas@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  what kind of things could you power with that amount?

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  • frezik@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    An RTC that you want to leave on its own for a very long time. Like underwater.

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  • KoboldCoterie@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Almost nothing… Maybe some very basic scientific equipment, but they do note that they’d be able to use multiple batteries layered to produce higher output, and that they’re expecting to have a 1 watt version later this year; that’d be far more useful in practice.

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