Comment on Mozilla Thunderbird Challenges Gmail With Its Own Email Service

ray1992xd@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• danc4498@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I keep hearing a lot of negative comments about Mozilla lately. I’m wondering if this move is more in line with then just turning into another google rather than disrupting the marketplace.

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  • knighthawk0811@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    yeah, might seem good to have yet another choice, but it’s an illusion

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    • mke@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      If they’re user funded, their incentives are fundamentally different from Google’s. It makes no sense to enshittify like Google does. It’s a different choice, even if it’s not the choice you wanted.

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      • knighthawk0811@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        different, yes. but by how much and will it be different in ways that truly matter

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  • JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Google only checked out and cashed in after getting a monopoly. Mozilla let themselves fade into irrelevance.

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  • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    yes but this takes time.

    fuck google in tge meantime.

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• Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  For now, they’re better than Google. I have some bad opinions about them, but anything better than Google competing with Google is an improvement.

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  • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yeah it’s not even close.

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• sihil@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  …and then join the big tech at some point.

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• 0x0@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It’s a saturated market and email is starting to disappear (it’ll take years, but the signs are there).
  They’d be better using it on the browser and ditching other products.

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  • scratchee@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Email isn’t going anywhere. It’s the ipv4 of communication. You can list 100 things bad about it and none of it matters, too many things are now built on top of it, no competitor can possibly have a chance without first reimplementing email, and then they’re just adding extensions which everyone else ignores, and email continues.

    The more plausible threat to email is that it gets siloed into the top 5 or 6 providers and everyone else gets filtered out as spam (ie you need gmail, hotmail, etc or your emails will never reach anyone)

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    • Scrollone@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      The big providers problem is already true, but DMARC and DKIM mitigated that problem.

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  • 1984@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    No its never going to disappear. If you are referring to people using slack and chat apps, those are locked in walled gardens where your messages cant ever leave.

    Email can be moved anywhere easily.

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    • chaosCruiser@futurology.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      On top of that, people still use email to sign up for these gardens. Technically, you could use your phone number too. I wonder how far could you take this idea of living completely without email.

      Job applications, and several other sign ins still depend on email, so that’s going to be a bit of a hitch.

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      • fishpen0@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yeah and then we can really go hard destroying the lives of people without phone access.

        I work for a healthcare company that serves the under privileged and right now in most cities it’s easier to guarantee someone has email than a consistent phone number thanks to free WiFi hotspots. You can miss a phone payment and still read your email even if you’re cut off from cellular service.

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  • moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Email won’t disappear sooner or later. It’s a huge part of communication between companies, nonprofit, state, etc. It may be less between people or with consumers. But, it still is widely use otherwise.

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  • JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’m curious, not bashing. What signs have you seen that lead you to believe email is dying?

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    • 0x0@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      It’s insecure by default and Kids These Days™ prefer messaging apps, which have boomed in the last decade.
      Time will tell.

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      • surewhynotlem@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        So… Exactly how it was 20 years ago. Kids Those Days used AIM and Yahoo Messenger instead of slack and discord.

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      • JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        What do you make of the use of email in the business world? You’re right that quite a bit of that has turned into instant messaging as well, ie I text my boss instead of sending them mail but it definitely feels like that’s going away a lot slower if not expanding

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  • Kualdir@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Any business2business or consumer2business communication will likely still happen over email for a very long time

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  • lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    email is starting to disappear

    The fuck it is lol, do you have any idea how much email is used in literally everything? How old are you?

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