I would say it’s bad because the only reason low quality products exist from China is because there is a company ordering them, typically American. All of our expensive tech comes from there any you haven’t heard of most of those companies
singletona@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
‘Chineese startup nobody has heard of.’
…am… I racist for immediately thinking scam? Like… they shoved a couple thumb drives in a fancy case level of scam?
ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Psythik@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Yeah but how is that not China’s fault too? Americans buy cheap products from there because China pays their employees pennies.
real_squids@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
From what I understand their minimum wages aren’t bad, it’s the enforcement that sucks. Everyone buys from them because labor laws are overlooked, but if they weren’t - there’s a risk manufacturing would move away and shrink. Bit of an ouroboros. I’d say both parties are to blame, but the paying one gets more of it.
gens@programming.dev 3 weeks ago
Imagine there’s like a super rich country where everybody gets paid at least 10x what you do. And they order crap from the company you work at.
It’s just the way it is in the world. A new gpu costs the same in my country, but median pay is like 2-4x less. So basically imagine if a new gpu costs 3000$ instead of 1k. Obligatory nvidia f you.
spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
startup nobody has heard of
There, now it isn’t racist because that sounds like a scam without any additional details.
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
No no its just sad reality that china is build on scam. Its a core value in their society, sadly
OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Haha OK op thinking it was a scam is not racist, calling it “a core value in their society” is a bit racist.
Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
No. It really is. Since the cultural Revolution, china has lost its manners. Gutter Oil, tofu drag, taking a whole “all you can eat” for yourself and ruining it with paper and spices for others, demanding money from a newly wed couple (originally it is that you give a few a red envelope with money. People close to you) eventhough you dont have anything to do with them, fake meat, glue instead of milk, fake tofu (its stirofome if you are lucky) and i can count more. Shooting birds with a slingshot, when in japan, carving spiritual shrines and cutting down/damaging/shaking off the cherry blossom trees
Its so so sad.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No because Chinese isn’t a race its a nationality. If you used one of the races there like Han The predominate race there. than yes it would be racist. The Han are in face often refereed to has the real Chinese. But china is made up of many races not just the one.
ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Okay bud Chinese 99.999999999% of the time refers to Han. If you ask a Chinese person they will say 中国人, Chinese. Yes Han is the proper nomenclature but no Chinese person would make this argument.
MehBlah@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I guess that would depend on whether you think of the country of a race when you think china. I think of the country and not the race. bud.
aleq@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t think that’s true at all? From my experience and research, China seems quite proud of it’s diversity. The five colors of the original ROC flag symbolized this diversity, though a bit simplified, as the “Five races under one union” (han, manchu, mongols, muslims, tibetans). This term is one of the “Three Principles of the People” formulated by Sun Yat-sen (who founded KMT and is venerated in both mainland China and Taiwan). It’s foundational to both Chinese republics.
(but if we’re talking about the language, then “Chinese” is mandarin Chinese unless otherwise specified)
Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
At this point, yeah, a bit. But it is a common racism to have right now, and the first step on the path to getting rid of it is knowing you have it.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
China has caught putting harware level vulnerabilities for decades now.
So there’s probably backdoors in any Chinese hardware by now. But also in any western hardware.
It’s just about who you want to send your data to.
taladar@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Actually it is mostly the US that has been caught doing that. Not saying others don’t do it but the US is the one who is bad enough at it to get caught regularly.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Are you a bot? You act a lot like one…
monarch@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
What about all of those routers?