Comment on Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft.

Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

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  • sunshine@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Stop it

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    • rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Oh come on, it was a really big deal. M$ bought GitHub. FOSS collectively shit itself for a week

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      • joostjakob@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Github was bought in 2018. For all we know, OP could have been 10 at the time

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      • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        It was also ages ago. Any discussion of it will have long since died down so if OP is new to programming then they won’t have come across this.

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  • OozingPositron@feddit.cl ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Continue.

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• Yaky@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Has been since 2018, and acquisition news caused quite an upset at the time.

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• CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Yeah they bought them almost 10 years now?

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• afk_strats@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  VS Code has a fully open source base which excludes proprietary extensions and default telemetry ( kind of his AOSP is for Android)

  Check here for more info:

  github.com/…/Differences-between-the-repository-a…

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  • airglow@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    And VSCodium is the project that releases builds from the VS Code source code. Privacy-conscious developers should use VSCodium (which is fully FOSS) instead of Visual Studio Code (which is partially proprietary and includes tracking).

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    • afk_strats@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      100%

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    • cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I use this on my private setup, but struggling to get tge Python language server to properly work. Apprently the VS Code one is unavailable. What do people use for this on VS Codium?

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  • ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    kind of how AOSP is for Android)

    9to5google.com/…/google-android-aosp-changes-anno…

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    • afk_strats@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I know 😢

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• GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

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  • sudneo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Maybe they are just getting started with learning programming, be kind.

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• merdaverse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Yes, also remember to completely avoid Typescript and C# since they are also Microsoft. And Rust since heavy ties to Amazon. Actually, just to spare you the time, avoid programming altogether and do something like farming, since no Big Tech influence there. /s

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  • Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I do like the work Microsoft has done with typescript itself, but more and more I’m seeing they are trying to tie up the language to VSCode, treating other editors as “second class citizens” for it and that has started to make me reconsider things.

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  • Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I retired and doing hobby projects in Python and java, so I get choices (including not playing) but wtf, big tech figured out how to take over open source?

    That’s particularly evil.

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    • asparagapple@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Python’s creator and BDfL works at Microsoft.

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      • Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I’m not trying to be like some HOLY MOUNTAIN that no unclean things can ever touch.

        I’m just trying to keep myself free. I’ll use people’s stuff. If that starts becoming bondage, I’m out

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    • merdaverse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      A cynical explanation would be using the EEE theory to explain all of this.

      A more nuanced one would be that corporations benefit from open source since it creates an easier pipeline to onboard engineers and they also benefit from the free labor that people put into the projects out of passion. Whether they want to kill OSS after embracing it is debatable, but they definitely want to have as much leverage on it as possible.

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      • Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Bill Gates stated: “One thing we have got to change in our strategy – allowing Office documents to be rendered very well by other people’s browsers is one of the most destructive things we could do to the company. We have to stop putting any effort into this and make sure that Office documents very well depend on proprietary IE capabilities. Anything else is suicide for our platform. This is a case where Office has to avoid doing something to destroy Windows.”

        That Wikipedia is a gold mine of evil.

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    • retro@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      They can support these languages because they have the resources to do so.

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      • Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I feel like a good illustration would be a bicycle.

        1. My bicycle works fine, a little slow, but it beats walking, and requires little to no outside resources or upkeep.
        2. My neighbor, Joe Microsoft, slaps an 80cc motor on my bike. It’s a lot faster, and less work for me, and Joe keeps it full of gas and tuned up, and fixes it when it breaks.
        3. I need Joe now to support my biking. I no longer have the resources to do it at this level, but Joe does.

        Is that about right? Are we selling open source for speed and convenience?

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  • xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Yes, also remember to completely avoid Typescript and C# since they are also Microsoft.

    This, but unironically.

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• Sunshine@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I recommend Codeberg or Forgejo!

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• nnullzz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  PyCharm is a solid choice. It just works. But if you’re open to another editor, take a look at Zed. It has python support too. It’s super snappy and way less bloated than the others.

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• FrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  If you like VSCode you can try VSCodium which supports almost all features of VSCode but should be fully FOSS without Microsoft proprietary blobs.

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• theherk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Might check out Zed. Relatively new editor from the folks behind Atom and treesitter. Extremely fast with an excellent interface and vim mode. The second best vim mode behind Neovim.

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  • robber@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I’ve been testing Zed for the last couple weeks for some Vue / Nuxt projects. It works great for that and seems very stable so far, but is also developed by a for-profit. Curious to see how the Zedless project works out.

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    • theherk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I actually think their comments when it first went open source are pretty compelling. I don’t disagree with you and I’m interested to see how zedless fares, but new projects of this scale are tough to do well and quickly. I’m pretty happy with their current approach.

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• ghost_towels@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I’m also very new to doing any type of programming, and also don’t remember things from last week lol. I use Kate, it’s from KDE which is from the Linux world but works on windows! They have some other good programs that also work on windows (and Mac too I think!) if you’re trying to extract yourself from there. I don’t know python very well so don’t know if Kate is the best choice compared to PyCharm for your use case, but might be a good allrounder.

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• AntY@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Can I suggest vim or emacs?

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