The port on the phone supports transfer speeds up to 20 or 40 gbps, it’s just the supplied charging cable that is limited to USB 2.0 speeds. If you use a thunderbolt cable you will get full speed and a full feature set.
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4am@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Then they’re not standards compliant and they can’t claim to have usb-c on their phones. I wonder how that will work out for them?
f314@lemm.ee 1 year ago
lustrum@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
That’s not what the article says.
JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 year ago
You’re likely not aware of all the facts. See, they’re required to put the USB C port in because Apple has been getting away with bullshit for decades that needs to stop. There’s zero reason for all the proprietary shit they force users to use that ends up creating millions of tons of plastic waste. So they decided to be extra massive cunts and are putting BOTH options on the phone instead of just using the one that every other phone does just fine with, creating a TON of plastic waste, and then, the kicker, forcing you to buy both cords anyhow if you want things to be fast.
ikilledlaurapalmer@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Getting away with it? You know lightning came out like 4 years before USB-C, right?
prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Apple gets shit because they had a proprietary connector when everyone stated using mini/micro usb.
They then upgraded their proprietary connector to one that was MUCH better than the mini/micro connectors.
Now the usb-c connector is king and apple looks bad for not having the “better” connector this time.
But they aren’t forcing anyone to a NEW proprietary connector, just the one they have been using for like a decade now …
Standardizing on a GOOD connector will be nice, but it’s not like apples proprietary connector wasn’t BETTER for a long time.
Most folks don’t follow the timeline, yes apple is using a proprietary connector but it’s older than the new connector that was being used. They didn’t force you into a shittier product back then.
JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Irrelevant. It was always an issue, with everything they do.
phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 year ago
What are you talking about? Lightning is older than USB-c, and iPhone has had 2 connectors (30pin, Lightning) during the time where all other phones had at least three (Mini B, Micro B, C)
AA5B@lemmy.world 1 year ago
and are putting BOTH options on the phone
While we haven’t yet seen the new phones, this is extremely unlikely. Since when does Apple have the reputation of adding ports?
I had read somewhere that they’re just continuing to use an older controller to save a few Pennie’s and reduce architectural changes
JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I’m only going off what this guy is guessing, but I don’t think they would do that either.
elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 year ago
But that’s just stupid.
f314@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I’m honestly not sure that I agree. Full speed USB 3.2/Thunderbolt cables are expensive, and 99.9 % of users will only ever use the supplied cable for charging. The ones who want to do cable transfers at high speed will probably already have the cable they need.
Limiting the speed of the *port * of the non-Pro models is worse, but likely also a cost-cutting decision that will have little impact on the vast majority of users.
It would be interesting to know how many of the competitors’ phones offer high speed data transfer through the USB port (I honestly don’t know, but would like to).
lustrum@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Right but USB 3.1 is a commodity now and most android phones support it. It doesn’t need to be 20/40gbps. Even 5gbps would be decent for most people.
MeanEYE@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Technically, they are. Type C is just port shape. Protocol version is a different matter, however newer versions are backwards compatible. What they are doing is not restricting functionality but to unlock fastest charging speed you have to buy approved cables. It’s sort of a gray area but luckily EU already caught them planning to do this, so work to change it is already underway.
Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 1 year ago
USB-c has absolutely nothing to do with speed. It’s solely the port shape.
Most USB-c cables today are usb2.0
mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
Many phones use USB-C with USB 2.0, or at least they used to very recently. The Samsung Galaxy S series had USB 3.0 micro B on the S5 and devolved into USB 2.0 with a USB-C connector.
phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 year ago
That’s not true. The standard is just the port, not what the port can do.
hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
USB-C is the physical form. Does it actually dictate USB3?
downdog5@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
SoggyBread@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Speak for yourself, there are still many who refuse to use subscription services for music and still store it on their phones
eric5949@lemmy.cloudaf.site 1 year ago
Orbituary@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Plex, baby! My server, my music, my streaming.
JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Lol, I’m sorry but this is just you thinking everyone is like you. Millions of people use their phones very differently.
gloriousspearfish@feddit.dk 1 year ago
This is absolutely wrong. The spec mandates that USB-C ports provides at least USB 3.1 support. Also USB-C is mandated for USB 3.1.
So to be compliant every USB-C port must support USB 3.1 at least. And you cannot support USB 3.1 with anything other than a USB-C port.
ScoobyDoo27@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Wtf are you talking about? The spec has a section specifically for wiring a USB 2.0 cable. Apple is one of the companies who wrote the USB spec and I’d find it pretty hard to believe they’d go against their own spec.
hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
Section 2.2? usb.org/…/USB Type-C Spec R2.0 - August 2019.pdf
lustrum@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Only the Pixel 3a. Even the Pixel 1 supported USB3.0 speeds…
HellAwaits@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Who’s we? Did you survey every single iPhone user? I hate it when people act like they’re the authority on any subject they are obviously clueless about.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Is what your comment did.
The connector is a usb-c connector. That is not the standard, just the connector type friend
brillekake@lemmy.world 1 year ago
He’s right though?
USB-C does NOT in any way specify capabilities or transfer specifications. It only specifies the form factor of the plug.
The plug can be used for any number of things from USB2.0 or ThunderBolt4, to power transfer, hells, even things like analog audio can use the plug.
DeadlineX@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Could you elaborate? Because I’m like… 90% you’re wrong. Oc is correct. The “c” in type c referred to the connector. Just like micro-b mini-b usb A,etc. USB 3 is the speed standard. As well as 3.1 (or 3.2 gen 1 it’s called now or some other silliness), 3.2 gen 2, etc.
There are usb C cables that can do video, audio, some that have thunderbolt speeds. There are also usb c cables that only support usb 2.0. So if you can elaborate on why you believe otherwise, id appreciate it. the usb consortium has ridiculous conventions and I’m no hardware specialist. My knowledge on these is from USB consortiums training when I was a salesman.
downdog5@lemmynsfw.com 1 year ago
No. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB-C?wprov=sfla1